Intellicenter Messages - Githubissues

rstrouse commented 5 years ago

Tag,

Here are the files from the capture. replay.zip

tagyoureit commented 5 years ago

There seems to be a LOT of new commands here. Some of them may be similar but are not packets that we've seen/decoded yet.

Do you have Screenlogic or a remote panel? If so, redo the packet capture and wait until all the packets from the app fail. Then unplug/replug in your screen logic (or change the pool/spa temp) and this should trigger a broadcast of all the configuration packets again. Then end the packet capture and re-upload it here.

rstrouse commented 5 years ago

Intellicenter does not use ScreenLogic. It has its own hosting www.intellicenter.com (there is a demo) and has its own mobile app. Included in the zip is a captureChanges.js which can be run with multiple options to filter out specific types of messages, a word doc explaining what I have discovered so far with the configuration, and a capture of the related messages for the configuration. Pentair Messages.zip

rstrouse commented 5 years ago

Didn't mean to close it.

rstrouse commented 5 years ago

Here is an update document of the configuration data from Intellicenter. It is by no means complete but this probably encompasses everything that is required to manage the panel. Pentair Messages.docx

tagyoureit commented 5 years ago

I've started to work on this. Your doc is very helpful . I'm at the point of just duct taping everything together but if you want to see the progress I'll push up the beta build for you to explore/review to see if the data is right.

Also, if you can send another packet capture with all of the settings I'll need those eventually. The little .js program you wrote is great. Only minor tweak is that the json should output packet instead of Broadcast so I don't need to do a find/replace. (I do try to track packets, socket calls and other comms hence the type.)

rstrouse commented 5 years ago

I've begun decoding even more messages and have decoded pretty much all of the system configuration items as well as much of the system status. I have also figured out the versioning at the panel so that it only sends back information that is new. My usb stick took a dump and am waiting on a new one to arrive but as soon as I get it I will put up another doc and a packet capture.

As for the program I wasn't sure what that data was used for but it makes much more sense as I look deeper into the messages transmitted back and forth and your code. I wasn't using that data for anything as I was simply reading the packets into a hacked up .NET app so that I could quickly analyze the payloads.

tagyoureit commented 5 years ago

Nice... yes, I can use your replay.json with npm run start:replay and then load up replay.html and replay the packets as if they were coming directly from your pool controller. This helps me with testing the code and making sure I can read all the packets correctly.

rstrouse commented 5 years ago

Well here is the information I promised. Weird the usb dongle just started being intermittent. New one fixed the issue. You may find that the changes are so far reaching with the previous generation that this is a bridge too far. I couldn't imagine doing this without the available equipment. There is crazy stuff going on like it sends specific equipment packets to see if the equipment is installed then asks for the rest of the configuration later.

Anyhow here it is and don't feel obligated. Intellicenter Messages.zip

btw: I forced the indoor panel to reload all its data.

tagyoureit commented 5 years ago

Thanks for posting this. Since this intellicenter stuff is so different I need to separate out the internal storage layer from the current implementation. That way, either the Intellitouch or Intellicenter logic can both update a consistent/known implementation of the internal circuit, pump, etc objects. In this process, much of the code is pretty outdated and a lot of efficiencies can be gained by implementing es5/es6 patterns and I'm also taking the opportunity to add TypeScript to the project as that will significantly reduce the number of coding errors that I've experienced in the past.

Long story short - stay tuned. I'll get this added but it will be a long process.

And yes, doing all of this without the equipment is really hard. I have done stuff in the past with users reporting what their equipment is doing by visually watching it and it was a nightmare. But with a guide like you put together and the replay functionality it should be much simpler (but still far from simple).

tagyoureit commented 5 years ago

Just FYI, I've started working on this. And yes, it is pretty tricky! But I'm starting to get the flow of how the packets work. Hopefully will have an initial something to test here shortly.

tagyoureit commented 5 years ago

Ok - I've got a few questions and I'm sure there will be a few more... From your Word Doc... 4.3.3 - Is there any setting to display circuit/features in the Pool/Spa section of the app? This is possible in screenlogic but maybe it was removed in Intellicenter? 4.3.4 - Circuit names. I'm just a little confused on which name goes with which circuit.

// first packet
165,63,15,16,30,34,1,3,83,112,97,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,83,112,97,32,74,101,116,115,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,5,69
// is "Spa" and "Spa Jets" --> is this circuit 1 and 2?  
...
// second packet
165,63,15,16,30,34,1,4,65,85,88,32,50,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,65,85,88,32,51,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,3,201
"AUX 2", "AUX 3"
...
// third packet
165,63,15,16,30,34,1,5,80,111,111,108,32,76,105,103,104,116,0,0,0,0,0,0,80,111,111,108,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,6,149
"Pool Light", "Pool"
...
// sixth packet
165,63,15,16,30,34,1,6,83,112,97,32,76,105,103,104,116,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,70,105,114,101,32,66,111,119,108,115,0,0,0,0,0,0,8,51
"Spa Light", "Fire Bowls"

Each packet has the "30,34,1,index" pattern, but if the second circuit name is (byte 1 ) -3 + 1 that would overwrite the next packet since they are coming in successive packets (3-24).

BTW, Intellitouch circuits start at 1 and not 0. So if the first byte is 3 I'm assuming that the first circuit is circuit 1 and not circuit 0. This is probably the same on Intellicenter.

Just taking a stab I think the circuits might be this: First circuit = ( data[ 7 ] - 2 ) * 2 - 1 Second circuit = first circuit + 1

Pool Light would be 5. Pool is usually 6 so that logic works out... (5-2)*2-1 = 6. thx.

rstrouse commented 5 years ago

Russ,

Sorry for the delay but like always nobody can just be whelmed. You are either over or under and I am over at the moment. Anyhow, I did spend some more time testing and sending messages to the panel so I have a more complete document. I will try to answer your questions as I have observed them.

Is there any setting to display circuit/features in the pool/spa section of the app? There is but it manifests itself differently. Intellicenter has split the old method of paging between displays into 2 distinct sections. Lights and Features. Circuits can be hidden in that they can be created but not shown in the features menu. You can create a circuit that simply controls the position of the valves or flips a relay that users will never see in the interface. See 4.3.3 and 4.3.9. For lights you can display them in the feature menu but if they are one of the identified light types then they will always be shown in the light menu. I think they may be gearing up to allow some more advanced lighting control in the future. The light group functions look an awful lot like what you would find in DMX control.
Circuit Names - I am just a little confused as to which name goes with which circuit It took me a bit to figure out what they were doing with this. As it turns out there are two names returned per packet. Intellicenter does not really make a distinction between the ID and the index of the circuit. For the purposes of a C programmer who looks at the world from address offsets then index 0 is the first circuit or circuit 1. In the doc I refer to index when I am looking at the offset and ID when I am referring to the quantitative. Long story short index 0 is the first circuit and your assessment of the document is correct.

Intellicenter Communications.docx

tagyoureit commented 5 years ago

Thanks, I'll take a look at this new document. Would you be interested in having it hosted somewhere that we can collaborate on it (Google Sheets? Dropbox?). I can host it if you don't have a way to do it. I have lots of little comments/suggestions that would be easier to see/ask in context.

Also, I am a making my way through the document and up to the Pumps section. Like you noted, I'm trying to figure these out and more importantly maintain compatibility between intellitouch/intellicenter.

I'll try to push up something soon so you can test against what you see in intellicenter and we can course correct along the way.

rstrouse commented 5 years ago

I don't have a problem with that but I don't have any way to host it. I can actually send you a node.js project that performs all the functions on Intellicenter. I used it to create this down and dirty dashboard.

tagyoureit commented 5 years ago

Sure... that would be great. And if you email me I'll setup a hosted version of the doc and invite you as a collaborator.

0xJoeMartin commented 4 years ago

What progress have you guys made on this Intellicenter node server? Anything I can help with?

rstrouse commented 4 years ago

We pretty much have all the messaging decoded as well as the command structure. At this point it can control and report all devices on the pool with the exception of IntelliChem.

Which version of IntelliCenter do you have and do you have IntelliChem? This has been written entirely with an i10PS but I don't suspect there to be many if any differences between models.

0xJoeMartin commented 4 years ago

I have the i8PS and I also have IntelliChem.

How are you guys capturing the messaging? I have tried looking at the requests by logging in to prod.intellicenter.com in a browser and using the mobile app. It looks like it switches over to websockets but then after that I can't see anything. Every WS plugin/decoder I have tried comes up empty.

rstrouse commented 4 years ago

This project is using a pi attached to an RS-485 stick. The D+ and D- lines of the bus are connected directly. It then communicates of the RS-485 bus.

We are not using the underlying rest api.

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

@tagyoureit Do you have an alpha version of v6 you could share? My IntelliCenter is on the way and I'm hoping to supplement it with this project. I already have a USB RS485 adapter and I have it hooked up to an intellivalve. I am seeing what looks like a heartbeat message periodically from the valve but hoping to get into it a bit more. Thanks

tagyoureit commented 4 years ago

Absolutely. Next branch. Note there are two web clients the app now (linked in the readme). You'll probably want to use @rstrouse's because he has an Intellicenter.

Neither of us have Intellivalves so it will be interesting to see what those comms look like.

cheers.

rstrouse commented 4 years ago

@tagyoureit Do you have an alpha version of v6 you could share? My IntelliCenter is on the way and I'm hoping to supplement it with this project. I already have a USB RS485 adapter and I have it hooked up to an intellivalve. I am seeing what looks like a heartbeat message periodically from the valve but hoping to get into it a bit more. Thanks

Actually I have 7 IntelliValves hooked up on my pool. I am waiting on the new firmware that was supposed to be released by Pentair this year to start tackling it. I suspect that the heartbeats are probably reporting position this will probably look a lot like the pump reporting. I expect to see valve position, mode, and whether it is transitioning in that message.

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

@tagyoureit Finally got my IntelliCenter setup and connected the RS485 adapter. I am running the latest code from the 'next' branch but not having much luck. This is what I see in the console: The GET is when I tried to access http://localhost:4200/ in a browser. All I got in the browser window was: Cannot GET /

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Full config.json below:

{
  "controller": {
    "comms": {
      "rs485Port": "COM7",
      "portSettings": {
        "baudRate": 9600,
        "dataBits": 8,
        "parity": "none",
        "stopBits": 1,
        "flowControl": false,
        "autoOpen": false,
        "lock": false
      },
      "mockPort": false,
      "netConnect": false,
      "netHost": "raspberrypi",
      "netPort": 9801,
      "inactivityRetry": 10
    }
  },
  "web": {
    "servers": {
      "http2": {
        "enabled": false
      },
      "http": {
        "enabled": true,
        "ip": "127.0.0.1",
        "port": 4200,
        "httpsRedirect": false,
        "authentication": "none",
        "authFile": "/users.htpasswd"
      },
      "https": {
        "enabled": true,
        "ip": "127.0.0.1",
        "port": 4201,
        "authentication": "none",
        "authFile": "/users.htpasswd",
        "sslKeyFile": "",
        "sslCertFile": ""
      },
      "mdns": {
        "enabled": false
      },
      "ssdp": {
        "enabled": false
      }
    },
    "services": {}
  },
  "log": {
    "packet": {
      "enabled": true,
      "logToConsole": false,
      "logToFile": false,
      "filename": "packetLog",
      "replay": false,
      "broadcast": {
        "enabled": true,
        "includeActions": [],
        "includeSource": [],
        "includeDest": [],
        "excludeActions": [],
        "excludeSource": [],
        "excludeDest": []
      },
      "pump": {
        "enabled": true,
        "includeActions": [],
        "includeSource": [],
        "includeDest": [],
        "excludeActions": [],
        "excludeSource": [],
        "excludeDest": []
      },
      "chlorinator": {
        "enabled": false,
        "includeSource": [],
        "includeDest": [],
        "excludeSource": [],
        "excludeDest": []
      },
      "unknown": {
        "enabled": true,
        "includeSource": [],
        "includeDest": [],
        "excludeSource": [],
        "excludeDest": []
      }
    },
    "app": {
      "enabled": true,
      "level": "info"
    }
  },
  "appVersion": "0.0.1"
}

Thanks

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

Actually I have 7 IntelliValves

@rstrouse Have you had a chance to look into this more? I have been watching for the illusive Pentair update for months but it seems no closer now than before. I was wondering if it may be possible to figure out the commands to move the intelliValves to a given and bypass the IntelliCenter, have you looked into this at all?

Thanks

tagyoureit commented 4 years ago

For your first question, you should download one of the two clients.

You should be able to get http://localhost:4200/state/all or http://localhost:4200/config/all to get the configurations. I haven't documented the API's yet.

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

You should be able to get http://localhost:4200/state/all or http://localhost:4200/config/all to get the configurations. I haven't documented the API's yet.

I was able to get a response on both of the above. Below is the equipment section:

"equipment": {
        "model": "IntelliTouch i5+3S",
        "controllerType": "intellitouch",
        "shared": false,
        "maxBodies": 2,
        "equipmentType": "equipment"
    },

Is as expected that my IntelliCenter is detected as an IntelliTouch? I actually have an IntelliCenter 8PS with a additional single 6-valve expansion board installed.

download one of the two clients.

I downloaded both :-) But am confused how to get them setup. Tried various combinations of nmp install, copying various files into the web dir of the maincontroller and also opening the index.html files directly. None are working. Sorry, node.js is not a stack I am familiar with so I'm a real noob.

Thanks!

tagyoureit commented 4 years ago

Yes, this should be picking up the Intellicenter. Try to delete the poolConfig.json and poolState.json in the data directory and restart. If it still picks up Intellitouch by mistake, set logToFile: true in the config.json and attach it here. I'll replay the packets locally and see what's up.

For the clients, they both run separately from this app. For now, they should be on the same machine until we document all the configurations. For the current version of nodejs-poolController-webclient run npm run dev. This will change in the next version I push up.

For dashpanel it should just be npm start.

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

Try to delete the poolConfig.json and poolState.json in the data directory and restart.

Tried twice and both times still picks up Intellitouch

set logToFile: true in the config.json and attach it here

packetLog(2020-03-07_14-08-53).log

For the current version of nodejs-poolController-webclient run npm run dev.

But was still able to open the site:

For dashpanel it should just be npm start.

From referenced log:

0 info it worked if it ends with ok
1 verbose cli [ 'C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node.exe',
1 verbose cli   'C:\\Users\\M\\AppData\\Roaming\\npm\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js',
1 verbose cli   'start' ]
2 info using npm@6.13.1
3 info using node@v8.16.2
4 verbose stack Error: missing script: start
4 verbose stack     at run (C:\Users\M\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\npm\lib\run-script.js:155:19)
4 verbose stack     at C:\Users\M\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\npm\lib\run-script.js:63:5
4 verbose stack     at C:\Users\M\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\npm\node_modules\read-package-json\read-json.js:116:5
4 verbose stack     at C:\Users\M\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\npm\node_modules\read-package-json\read-json.js:435:5
4 verbose stack     at checkBinReferences_ (C:\Users\M\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\npm\node_modules\read-package-json\read-json.js:391:45)
4 verbose stack     at final (C:\Users\M\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\npm\node_modules\read-package-json\read-json.js:433:3)
4 verbose stack     at then (C:\Users\M\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\npm\node_modules\read-package-json\read-json.js:161:5)
4 verbose stack     at C:\Users\M\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\npm\node_modules\read-package-json\read-json.js:281:12
4 verbose stack     at C:\Users\M\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\npm\node_modules\graceful-fs\graceful-fs.js:115:16
4 verbose stack     at FSReqWrap.readFileAfterClose [as oncomplete] (fs.js:511:3)
5 verbose cwd C:\nodejs-poolControl.dashPanel
6 verbose Windows_NT 10.0.18363
7 verbose argv "C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node.exe" "C:\\Users\\M\\AppData\\Roaming\\npm\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js" "start"
8 verbose node v8.16.2
9 verbose npm  v6.13.1
10 error missing script: start
11 verbose exit [ 1, true ]

tagyoureit commented 4 years ago

Pull down the latest code from each branch to start.

For the packet log, I'm not seeing much in there. Can you try again and also set the replay:true and send along the *.json replay file that will be in the /replay directory? Also, please make sure it is capturing all pump/controller/etc messages as specified in the config.json.

The nodejs-poolController-webclient looks fine starting up. It isn't talking to the main app, though. Do you see any errors if you open up the developer console in Chrome?

For the dashPanel, you'll need to run tsc (typescript compile; if you don't have typescript then first npm i typescript) and then node app.js.

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

Pull down the latest code from each branch to start.

Done

send along the *.json replay file

packetCapture.zip

nodejs-poolController-webclient connected this time... strange but at least it is connecting now.

dashpanel: your instructions worked, I am able to load the dashpanel also now, thanks!

Neither UI is functional though of course since the controller still thinks I have an IntelliTouch, hopefully the packet capture helps figure out the mystery.

By the way, not sure if it matters but I have my IntelliCenter setup on my bench. The only RS485 devices connected to the bus are a single IntelliValve and the USB adapter. There is no power to my equipment pad yet so I am unable to hook up the pumps or the IntelliChem.

tagyoureit commented 4 years ago

I ran the packet capture and you have a type of IntelliCenter that is new to me. I've updated the code so please to pull it and try again. We'll have to see if anything else needs to be changed.

Can you tell me exactly which configuration of IntelliCenter you have?
Can you resend me another packet capture after the controller finishes loading (and let me know if anything you see if poolConfig.json or poolState.json are incorrect)?

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

Thanks for your fast responses and sticking with this.

Can you tell me exactly which configuration of IntelliCenter you have?

IntelliCenter i8PS with a valve expansion module (522038Z) installed in expansion slot 1. Running firmware v 11:14:14

2. Can you resend me another packet capture

packetLog(2020-03-14_20-59-31).log

packetCapture.zip

let me know if anything you see if poolConfig.json or poolState.json are incorrect

From State:

"equipment": {
        "controllerType": "intellicenter",
        "model": "IntelliCenter i10PS",
        "maxBodies": 2,
        "shared": true,
        "maxCircuits": 11,
        "maxValves": 10,
        "maxSchedules": 100,
        "maxPumps": 16,
        "equipmentType": "equipment"
    },

i8PS incorrectly reported as i10PS.

From Config:

    "equipment": {
        "maxBodies": 2,
        "maxCircuits": 11,
        "maxSchedules": 100,
        "maxPumps": 16,
        "maxValves": 10,
        "maxCircuitGroups": 16,
        "maxLightGroups": 40,
        "maxIntelliBrites": 8,
        "maxChlorinators": 1,
        "maxCustomNames": 10,
        "model": "IntelliCenter i10PS",
        "maxFeatures": 32,
        "name": "Master Panel",
        "type": 15,
        "expansions": [
            {
                "id": 1,
                "type": 0,
                "name": "Expansion 1",
                "isActive": false
            },
            {
                "id": 2,
                "type": 0,
                "isActive": false,
                "name": "Expansion 2"
            },
            {
                "id": 3,
                "type": 0,
                "isActive": false,
                "name": "Expansion 3"
            }
        ],
        "shared": true
    },

i8PS incorrectly reported as i10PS.
I have a valve expansion module installed in 'expansion' slot 1, but it shows as "isActive" : false. However the "maxValves" is correctly showing 10 (4 from the main board and 6 extra from the expansion module)

tagyoureit commented 4 years ago

Oh, very interesting! If you have the i8PS shouldn't maxCircuits only be 8 (or 9) and not 11?

If you have this unit on your bench are you able to start a fresh packet capture (and delete poolConfig/poolState) without the 6 valve expansion panel? We currently have a small sample set and seeing the differences with/without the panel in the i8PS compared to the i10PS will help to nail down the differences in the packets.

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

shouldn't maxCircuits only be 8 (or 9) and not 11?

Yes it should, sorry I forgot to mention that.

fresh packet capture ... without the 6 valve expansion panel?

packetLog(2020-03-15_09-49-26).log packetCapture.zip

Even without the valve expansion module, maxValves is still reporting as 10 which is incorrect as it can only control 4 without the expansion module.

From state:

 "equipment": {
    "shared": true,
    "model": "IntelliCenter i10PS",
    "controllerType": "intellicenter",
    "maxBodies": 2,
    "maxCircuits": 11,
    "maxValves": 10,
    "maxSchedules": 100,
    "maxPumps": 16
  },

From config:

"equipment": {
    "maxBodies": 2,
    "maxCircuits": 11,
    "maxSchedules": 100,
    "maxPumps": 16,
    "maxValves": 10,
    "maxCircuitGroups": 16,
    "maxLightGroups": 40,
    "maxIntelliBrites": 8,
    "maxChlorinators": 1,
    "maxCustomNames": 10,
    "maxFeatures": 32,
    "name": "Master Panel",
    "type": 15,
    "expansions": [
      {
        "id": 1,
        "type": 0,
        "name": "Expansion 1",
        "isActive": false
      },
      {
        "id": 2,
        "type": 0,
        "isActive": false,
        "name": "Expansion 2"
      },
      {
        "id": 3,
        "type": 0,
        "isActive": false,
        "name": "Expansion 3"
      }
    ],
    "shared": true,
    "model": "IntelliCenter i10PS"
  },

For fun, I repeated the above with the i8PS personality board removed, (which is a legitimate but unlikely configuration). So now all I have connected is the mainboard. The mainboard has only 4 Aux circuit and 2 valve actuator connections on board.

packetLog(2020-03-15_10-01-23).log

packetCapture.zip

I deleted the poolState.json and poolConfig,json before this run, but the results are exactly the same as above. 😕

 "equipment": {
    "maxBodies": 2,
    "maxCircuits": 11,
    "maxSchedules": 100,
    "maxPumps": 16,
    "maxValves": 10,
    "maxCircuitGroups": 16,
    "maxLightGroups": 40,
    "maxIntelliBrites": 8,
    "maxChlorinators": 1,
    "maxCustomNames": 10,
    "maxFeatures": 32,
    "name": "Master Panel",
    "type": 15,
    "expansions": [
      {
        "id": 1,
        "type": 0,
        "name": "Expansion 1",
        "isActive": false
      },
      {
        "id": 2,
        "type": 0,
        "isActive": false,
        "name": "Expansion 2"
      },
      {
        "id": 3,
        "type": 0,
        "isActive": false,
        "name": "Expansion 3"
      }
    ],
    "shared": true,
    "model": "IntelliCenter i10PS"
  },

tagyoureit commented 4 years ago

Thanks, I'll take a look at these... just curious, after each hardware change are you able to verify that IC knows you have removed the boards? In the picture below (from the manual, page 45), you should be able to re-detect and verify which personality/expansion boards the base board thinks is present:

2020-03-15_09-53-19

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

That is the setup wizard, the detected hardware can also be accessed at any time via: Advanced System Configuration -> System -> Detected Hardware.

The system correctly detects that the relevant cards are installed/removed. See images below for each of the three configurations I tested:

IMG_20200315_133724

IMG_20200315_134012

IMG_20200315_134139

Gibby commented 4 years ago

I just got an intellicenter have been digging around seeing how to integrate it with Home Assistant and this seems the closest. I want to be able to do it without having to use a RS485. On https://www.intellicenter.com/ looking at the source looks like the API is all there and uses web sockets. I noticed the Android App for the intellicenter supports local IP mode. When I get home later tonight I'll unpack it and see how it connects locally to the intellicenter. Also, I am able to connect to the intellicenter locally on port 6081 and send commands and request parameters, I just haven't figured out how to get status updates when say I changed a setting from Android app. I am no developer my any means but I am pretty good and digging around and modifying code as needed. Let me know if I can be of any help.

Gibby commented 4 years ago

I was trying to figure out how to get changes of the system when a telnet session is opened to 6081 and I found if you send the below message, you start getting status messages for temp, lights(on/off, color changes) and a whole lot of other info.

Send

{"command":"RequestParamList","objectList":[{"objnam":"UFFFE","keys":["ENABLE","OBJTYP","PASSWRD","SHOMNU"]},{"objnam":"C0002","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"C0003","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"C0002","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"C0003","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"C0004","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"C0005","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"_5451","keys":["OBJTYP","MODE","AVAIL","TEMPNC","VACFLO","VACTIM","START","STOP","HEATING","VALVE","TIMZON","VER","MANHT"]},{"objnam":"_A135","keys":["OBJTYP","SUBTYP","PROBE","STATUS"]},{"objnam":"B1101","keys":["TEMP","HITMP","LOTMP","HEATER","STATUS","HTMODE","HTSRC","VOL","MANUAL","LSTTMP","HNAME","MODE"]},{"objnam":"C0002","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"C0003","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"C0004","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"C0005","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"C0006","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY"]},{"objnam":"GRP01","keys":["STATUS","MODE","LISTORD","USAGE","FREEZE","LIMIT","USE","MANUAL","FEATR","DNTSTP","CHILD","HNAME","SNAME","RLY","OBJNAM","OBJTYP","SHOMNU","TIME","TIMOUT","SOURCE","SUBTYP","BODY","CHILD","SYNC","SET","SWIM"]},{"objnam":"_C105","keys":["OBJTYP","SOURCE"]},{"objnam":"_C10C","keys":["OBJTYP","DAY","MIN","OFFSET","SNAME","TIMZON","SRIS","SSET","CLK24A","LOCX","LOCY","ZIP","DLSTIM"]},{"objnam":"_5451","keys":["OBJTYP","MODE","AVAIL","TEMPNC","VACFLO","VACTIM","START","STOP","HEATING","VALVE","TIMZON","VER","MANHT"]},{"objnam":"_57A7","keys":["PARTY","BADGE"]}],"messageID":"1234"}

Response

Status updates

{"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"cf11281d-93f1-4c78-9ea3-920ae57d28e9","objectList":[{"objnam":"GRP01","params":{"SYNC":"OFF"}}]} {"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"e59a8505-689f-440d-9550-045fd8c5090a","objectList":[{"objnam":"GRP01","params":{"SYNC":"ON"}}]} {"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"61307bbd-6c46-4139-b31b-3e0a4fd9d3f5","objectList":[{"objnam":"_C10C","params":{"MIN":"15,17,00"}}]} {"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"b48c4159-324d-4108-bd96-8911ba270ff8","objectList":[{"objnam":"GRP01","params":{"SYNC":"OFF"}}]} {"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"5fb6a992-810b-4d18-ac32-0b6d6ee22b29","objectList":[{"objnam":"_C10C","params":{"MIN":"15,18,00"}}]} {"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"615721ba-c352-4f22-9369-e67235c03f57","objectList":[{"objnam":"B1101","params":{"TEMP":"54"}}]} {"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"87826d97-118a-4334-89a6-217c6d6e28fd","objectList":[{"objnam":"B1101","params":{"TEMP":"53"}}]} {"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"d7c905ef-5bb5-410e-8f7a-6e3520706cc1","objectList":[{"objnam":"B1101","params":{"TEMP":"54"}}]} {"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"be15d040-eea5-4463-bec6-72e1de47ed63","objectList":[{"objnam":"_C10C","params":{"MIN":"15,19,00"}}]} {"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"c15f731d-72a5-48c8-927d-03aaf649adcb","objectList":[{"objnam":"C0002","params":{"ACT":"65535","USE":"BLUER","LIMIT":"2"}}]} {"command":"NotifyList","messageID":"dc6111f9-7f3b-4fb9-9e00-1e536f6ac982","objectList":[{"objnam":"B1101","params":{"TEMP":"53"}}]}

All I did was go to intellicenter.com, open up developer tools in Chrome and watched the console. You can filter on sending and see everything it is doing. I think there are a few other sends it does to build the above command but I think it is a pretty good start.

tagyoureit commented 4 years ago

Hi @Gibby, that's pretty cool. Sounds like there could be some benefit to continuing down that path. I, unfortunately, don't have an IntelliCenter. There was another user who was figuring out the network calls on ScreenLogic for the *Touch series but I never got into trying to debug them. Keep us posted!

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

@tagyoureit any thoughts on my latest findings and why my system is discovered as an i10PS? Is there any more info I can provide? Hoping to get some more equipment installed soon and power to my equipment pad but that will mean my IntelliCenter will move off my bench and be more difficult to mess with. Thanks

tagyoureit commented 4 years ago

Hmmm, I looked at the packets that are marked as identifying the personality boards and it is the 30,40,0 packet. There are two packets (17 & 18) that are different from each, but it is a pretty small sample to be able to decode it so far. I'll try to look at some other examples I have when I get some time. (I think, in order, they are the naked base board; base + personality; and base + personality + expansion but I need to double check.)

[255,0,255,165,1,15,16,30,40,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,240,211,28,86,2,0,0,78,100,104,103,0,3,0,0,15,0,0,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,5,58]
[255,0,255,165,1,15,16,30,40,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,240,211,28,75,2,0,0,78,100,104,103,0,3,0,0,15,0,0,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,5,47]
[255,0,255,165,1,15,16,30,40,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,240,210,28,233,4,0,0,78,100,104,103,0,3,0,0,15,0,0,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,5,206]

@rstrouse, how did you determine this packet identified the expansion (and personality) boards? Do these help in any way?

rstrouse commented 4 years ago

Hmmm, I looked at the packets that are marked as identifying the personality boards and it is the 30,40,0 packet. There are two packets (17 & 18) that are different from each, but it is a pretty small sample to be able to decode it so far. I'll try to look at some other examples I have when I get some time. (I think, in order, they are the naked base board; base + personality; and base + personality + expansion but I need to double check.)
[255,0,255,165,1,15,16,30,40,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,240,211,28,86,2,0,0,78,100,104,103,0,3,0,0,15,0,0,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,5,58]
[255,0,255,165,1,15,16,30,40,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,240,211,28,75,2,0,0,78,100,104,103,0,3,0,0,15,0,0,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,5,47]
[255,0,255,165,1,15,16,30,40,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,240,210,28,233,4,0,0,78,100,104,103,0,3,0,0,15,0,0,0,0,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,5,206]
@rstrouse, how did you determine this packet identified the expansion (and personality) boards? Do these help in any way?

Guys,

The 30 message above does not indicate the model or the personality boards. That 30 you are looking at represents the genera; options associated with the panel. This includes the sensor adjustments, clock mode, body setpoints, body heat modes, and manual operations.

The model is extracted from the message action 30, xx, 13, 0 message. This contains the information for the panels. It may not be correct because of the limited sample but the system looks at the master panel type from the payload byte(35). I simulated a scenario where the board actually reported an i5, and i10. From there the max circuits are determined. If you have the message for 30, 40, 13, 0 then I can see the differences between the two payloads.

Payload byte(35) is a bitmask where bit 1 = indicates whether a valve expansion exists bit 2 = i5P installed bit 3 = i8P installed bit 4 = i10P installed bit 8 = Shared equipment (S).

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

bit 1 = indicates whether a valve expansion exists

Hi @rstrouse I don't pretend to understand all that you said but I have a question regarding the above. If there is only one bit allocated to the indicating the presence or lack of a valve expansion board then what happens in the case where two or three of the expansion slots are filled with valve expansion boards? Does bit1 just indicate if any expansion boards exist and then there is another part of the payload that indicates the number of available valves?

Also, there is an optional pool cover expansion module (522039Z) where (if at all) would the presence of this board show in the payload?

rstrouse commented 4 years ago

I'll address the pool cover first since that is the easy one. The pool cover is actually a dedicated port. It's existence is determined by asking for the cover configuration. In fact you can enable it without even having the board.

As for the detection of the personality boards that is another issue altogether. The reason why you are experiencing issues is that they moved the location of this byte from 1.023 to 1.040. I just hadn't upgraded yet but I did just about a half hour ago. Turns out that there is a message 204 that had this information duplicated in it and they removed it from the master panel config.

Anyhow just to clarify a few things. There are different types of expansion here. The OCP0 is the outdoor panel. If you add an i10x or i5x you get OCP1 as well and you can add up to 3 of these in some sort of nebulous configuration. That being said, each of these can only have 1 valve expansion (I believe). There are actually 4 bits in the new location that indicate these.

I have your 3 configurations so this should help me to see the differences.

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

If you add an i10x or i5x you get OCP1 as well and you can add up to 3 of these in some sort of nebulous configuration. That being said, each of these can only have 1 valve expansion (I believe).

Very interesting. So just to clarify, are you saying that each master board can only have one valve expansion module per board even though each main board has 3 expansion slots? If I understand correctly, the i10x and i5x are essentially additional IntelliCenter mainboards that are slaved to the main-main board?

In fact you can enable it without even having the board.

This is also very interesting to me :-) Before I start asking a lot of questions about how to enable it, is there and way to signal to the IntelliCenter that a cover is open/closed without having the cover module installed? As far as I can tell that is really the only point of the cover module, to provide a physical interface, since 'reaction' to an open/closed cover occurs on the mainboard.

rstrouse commented 4 years ago

Very interesting. So just to clarify, are you saying that each master board can only have one valve expansion module per board even though each main board has 3 expansion slots?

That is correct but I may just be mistaken on this. I'll have to look at it again but I think you can't piggy back more than one.

If I understand correctly, the i10x and i5x are essentially additional IntelliCenter mainboards that are slaved to the main-main board?

That is correct This is also very interesting to me :-) Before I start asking a lot of questions about how to enable it, is there and way to signal to the IntelliCenter that a cover is open/closed without having the cover module installed? As far as I can tell that is really the only point of the cover module, to provide a physical interface, since 'reaction' to an open/closed cover occurs on the mainboard.

I am pretty sure the only thing the cover board gives you is the electrical connectors. Everything else exists without the board.

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

That is correct but I may just be mistaken on this. I'll have to look at it again but I think you can't piggy back more than one.

I was under the impression it was valid to fill all three slots with valve expansion modules (in fact my current design relies on it!) 😟 - From poking around in the API I noticed the mainboard seems to support a max of 26 valves, (6+6+6+6+2) ◀️ that is actually 4 valve expansion modules because the mainboard can be run without the personality card. I happen to have another valve expansion board. I will go and add it to my setup now and test with 2 valve expansion boards plus the i8PS personality card....

I am pretty sure the only thing the cover board gives you is the electrical connectors. Everything else exists without the board.

👍 - So it may be fun to enable it without the cover board but ultimately pointless? 😄

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

Well...... 😞😢😭

Second valve expansion module is correctly detected: IMG_20200324_210849

But only 10 valves are detected in Installation Setup -> Valves and only 10 are show in in IntelliCenter.com

rstrouse commented 4 years ago

While it is connected like this shoot a log. I need to see what the 204 message looks like. All might not be lost here. Perhaps it simply isn't showing in the UI properly.

theRealMCQwerty commented 4 years ago

2020-03-25_08-56-00.zip packetLog(2020-03-25_08-56-00).log

Thanks and 🤞 🤞

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