tapquo / Lungo.js

A framework for developers who want to design, build and share cross device applications.
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Support for Windows Phone 8 #142

Closed kraftwer1 closed 11 years ago

kraftwer1 commented 11 years ago

Right now, the provided example doesn't work on Windows Phone 8. Neither it does in Windows Phone 7, even though it claims to.

Any information about when it will be supported?

FdezRomero commented 11 years ago

The latest commit doesn't work on iOS or desktop Chrome either: I guess it's just in an unfinished state, so it may not be due to lack of support.

kraftwer1 commented 11 years ago

Sorry, I meant the example provided on your website, not the one in the Master branch. (Is there any revision that is compatible with Windows Phone?)

soyjavi commented 11 years ago

No, not in plans.

cpursley commented 11 years ago

I recommend reconsidering Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 (touch) support. Windows Phone 8 adoption has been pretty good and it looks like it will become the third most adopted mobile OS.

soyjavi commented 11 years ago

I disagree, Microsoft currently has a poor browser on Windows Phone. I'd rather bet on powerful browsers such as BlackBerry10 or FirefoxOS.

El 02/05/2013, a las 01:13, Chase Pursley notifications@github.com escribió:

I recommend reconsidering Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 (touch) support. Windows Phone 8 adoption has been pretty good and it looks like it will become the third most adopted mobile OS.

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endareceo commented 11 years ago

I agree with cpursley, Windows Phone is not to be neglected if you want Lungo to compete with jQuery Mobile.

soyjavi commented 11 years ago

Sorry, but it is our decision, now we are focused on Webkit and Mozilla engines ... trying to create the best experience in mobile, tablet or TV devices.

El viernes, 7 de junio de 2013 a las 08:51, Bram Vandewalle escribió:

I agree with cpursley, Windows Phone is not to be neglected if you want Lungo to compete with jQuery Mobile.

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endareceo commented 11 years ago

I respect the fact that it's your decision. However from a commercial point of view this is a bit of an issue preventing my company from using Lungo for HTML5 app projects. My clients don't care a single dime for Firefox or Firefox OS, but they have Windows 8 and Windows Phone devices.

Don't get me wrong: I am a major fan of your framework and I use it whenever I can in projects. In fact I want to use it in more projects, that's why I am asking/nagging.

soyjavi commented 11 years ago

The big problem that exists with Windows8 (mobile) its the poor browser :/

El viernes, 7 de junio de 2013 a las 09:35, Bram Vandewalle escribió:

I respect the fact that it's your decision. However from a commercial point of view this is a bit of an issue preventing my company from using Lungo for HTML5 app projects. My clients don't care a single dime for Firefox or Firefox OS, but they have Windows 8 and Windows Phone devices. Don't get me wrong: I am a major fan of your framework and I use it whenever I can in projects. In fact I want to use it in more projects, that's why I am asking/nagging.

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endareceo commented 11 years ago

What part of Lungo is causing the incompatibility with Windows Phone 8? I am willing to look into it.

soyjavi commented 11 years ago

The incompatibility it's the touch support in Windows Phone 7/8 Mobile … gesture events.

El viernes, 7 de junio de 2013 a las 12:01, Bram Vandewalle escribió:

What part of Lungo is causing the incompatibility with Windows Phone 8? I am willing to look into it.

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cpursley commented 11 years ago

Windows support is still a vital business requirement, unfortunately - especially tablet and desktop.

ayzenquwe commented 11 years ago

But there are several UI libs that work fine with Windows Phone 8 (I mean gestures). We are trying to make a decision whether to use your framework and the main "stopper" is no support for Windows Phone 8 in the near future.

maxaud commented 11 years ago

I too would love Windows Phone 8 Support, or at least partial support for UI elements.

cpursley commented 11 years ago

Maybe the solution is to fork the lungo project and use a separate touch library for IE? Detect if the device is IE and point at a separate set of css/javascript?

soyjavi commented 11 years ago

Noup, remember that QuoJS it's the CORE of LungoJS …

El viernes, 7 de junio de 2013 a las 18:36, Chase Pursley escribió:

Maybe the solution is to fork the lungo project and use a separate touch library for IE? Detect if the device is IE and point at a separate set of css/javascript?

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webprofusion-chrisc commented 11 years ago

Hi guys, I need IE support too, specifically to develop cross platform between mobiles and windows 8 desktop and windows phone 8. Here are some tips for IE touch handling: http://blogs.windows.com/windows_phone/b/wpdev/archive/2012/11/15/adapting-your-webkit-optimized-site-for-internet-explorer-10.aspx#step4 I'm guessing you primarily develop on a Mac and don't have access to the Windows Phone SDK (it has an emulator with touch events). So it sounds like quojs is the library which needs some work for IE?

cpursley commented 11 years ago

I suppose those of us familiar with IE touch library should fork the quojs project or lungo and utilize a different touch library. Just a cursory look at Google analytics show about 75% of my hits are IE users.

muhlegg commented 11 years ago

Windows 8 support is unfortunately a must have these days. Was really exited when I found this framework but now I won't be able to use it. I already started writing a mail to you regarding your commercial licensing but no need to even send it now. Hope to see you change your mind soon ;)

soyjavi commented 11 years ago

Not for now …. We feel Open Source as part of our lives, and Microsoft don't. So we love webkit, firefox because it's OpenSource... --  Javi Jiménez Villar Founder at @tapquo

On 26 de octubre de 2013 at 09:58:59, Filip Holmberg (notifications@github.com) wrote:

Windows 8 support is unfortunately a must have these days. Was really exited when I found this framework but now I won't be able to use it. I already started writing a mail to you regarding your commercial licensing but no need to even send it now. Hope to see you change your mind soon ;)

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muhlegg commented 11 years ago

Understand your point. Just too bad, especially when you live up north where Windows phones(nokias) are really popular :/

soyjavi commented 11 years ago

I'm sorry but but Windows Phone aren't more popular than iOS and Android. Take a look to the use and consumption statistics to understand it. --  Javi Jiménez Villar Founder at @tapquo

On 26 de octubre de 2013 at 10:14:43, Filip Holmberg (notifications@github.com) wrote:

Understand your point. Just too bad, especially when you live up north where Windows phones(nokias) are really popular :/

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endareceo commented 11 years ago

Then I guess you should stop supporting Firefox OS as well? I get your affection for open source, but we are running business and have to listen to clients. If a clients wants Windows Phone we make it happen. And in a way we are your clients so...

Anyway, I stopped using Lungo.js for a couple of reasons. This attitude has been one of them.

soyjavi commented 11 years ago

FirefoxOS is a good opportunity to purchase low-cost smartphones (especially in countries in process of improvement) and the most important is Open Source. At @tapquo also serve clients ... and we have no problems with them.

Anyway if you want to use Lungo in WIndows Phone is very simple, fork the project and start to make the port :)

regards, --  Javi Jiménez Villar Founder at @tapquo

On 26 de octubre de 2013 at 11:19:42, Bram Vandewalle (notifications@github.com) wrote:

Then I guess you should stop supporting Firefox OS as well? I get your affection for open source, but we are running business and have to listen to clients. If a clients wants Windows Phone we make it happen. And in a way we are your clients so...

Anyway, I stopped using Lungo.js for a couple of reasons. This attitude has been one of them.

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muhlegg commented 11 years ago

Did not say Windows were more popular at any stage... just pointed out that if you have to make a app for "all" mobile users you can't ignore Windows. Especially here in Finland Windows Phones are really popular, of course due to the power of Nokia. I did see some roadmap somewhere where Windows was included but I guess that path has changed since then.