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Taking TodoMVC further.
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Define application #2

Open addyosmani opened 11 years ago

addyosmani commented 11 years ago

We will soon put together the draft list of features TasteApp will implement as part of #1.

The time has come for us decide on what the practical application using these features is going to be :)

Some of the ideas suggested:

My personal current preference would be the RSS reader idea with a dedicated backend. Dedicated means we have no reliance on API limits or services going up, down or away.

passy commented 11 years ago

+1 on RSS reader. Here are some notes on OSS implementations and APIs: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1plq3yROJxSaiu6nOj2H5cwiEn-HbVVrBuHHq6rGrO94/edit?usp=sharing

addyosmani commented 11 years ago

Very useful list. Thanks @passy!

ghost commented 11 years ago

GitHub API client can give more information about the framework.

paulmillr commented 11 years ago

i’ll probably ask once again: what’s wrong with forum for GitHub projects based on own API — http://ost.io? just hadn’t seen any direct negative responses to that

addyosmani commented 11 years ago

It's a completely valid question :) Two things:

API limits: I've been heavily using the GitHub API of late and ran into a number of issues with API rate limiting - have you had this issue at all @paulmillr? . As you probably know when you're unauthenticated your limits are fairly low and authenticated it's more around the 5000 request point. This should be fine if we end up not using multiple widgets per view consuming data but if we do, it can get used up quickly (at least it did in my case).

Relying on at third-party API: It's mostly just me, but I have concerns with using third-party APIs which might be subject to change or disappearing at some point in the future. With GitHub the latter is less likely, but I can imagine an API V4 or V5 requiring a number of changes per implementation on our end which might not be easy to get in place. Imagine trying to do this across 20 or 30 apps.

That said, these reservations are my own and we can of course still consider doing a GitHub projects based app using the API. Just making sure concerns are logged :)

paulmillr commented 11 years ago

@addyosmani for example, http://ost.io caches everything (avatars, user ids etc) and makes API calls to GitHub API only on initial log in and repo sync. So, this should not be a concern at all when backend does caching.

The important point is that the third-party API will not be really third-party. If the main server will shut down, anyone will be able to get it working again on his server just in hours since it is open-source. We will just need to update DNS.

donaldpipowitch commented 11 years ago

+1 for any app with a dedicated backend (- the RSS reader would be fine). It should demonstrate authentication and authorization (e.g. creating an account, remove an account, forget my password function...) and shouldn't use a 3rd party API for this. (imo)

jeremychone commented 11 years ago

I did quite a bit of these type of applications internally to train my developers, and the one that resonate the most are:

1) Task Manager 2) Contact manager

While task manager seems to be a boring choice, it does resonate very well with developers, could run only on local (no server) and with server, and offer enough depth to have any capability we want to have (CRUD, Routing, Nested structure, ...).

Here are the ones that I think would be a more challenging fit:

a) RSS Reader: I think it might be too content/browsing centric, and not enough CRUD capabilities.

b) GitHub API Client (chat): Could be too limited in term of CRUD functionality, and will be hard for people to run on their local. Also, it add a all other level of integration API which might be outside of the scope of what need to be demonstrated.

callmehiphop commented 11 years ago

A lot of my professional experience has related to the automotive industry and I thought it would be cool to create a "Build Your Own" type app. Pretty much everytime I've worked on one, a month later I had wished I'd used {{latest and greatest}} instead.

Sonic BYO example

Ideally it would allow for complete customization of a vehicle: color, trim, accessories, options, viewing angles, etc. You could have the ability to pick between different models, save certain configurations and do side-by-side comparisons for saved configurations. Could even go so far as social integration to share a configuration.

There would be a couple of potential issues:

  1. We wouldn't be able to easily compare the code to existing apps on the web.
  2. This would require a great deal of data and assets. I'm willing to reach out to some of my previous employers to see if we could make use of their APIs, but it may be wiser to plan for the worst case scenario.
addyosmani commented 10 years ago

Hey folks,

It's been a few months since we last revisited TasteApp and I'd love for us to get some momentum going on it again :dancer: In order to get the project off the ground a few things need agreement upon:

Thoughts?

paulmillr commented 10 years ago

do you think you'll have time in the next few months to help if we go down this path (addressing further features etc)

yes! i’m in. all in.

sindresorhus commented 10 years ago

Yes to all this! It has dragged on way to looooooooooooooooooo...ooong. Maybe we should do an Hangout text or video to set some highlevel AI of what needs doing and go through the ost.io app.

paulmillr commented 10 years ago

maybe this friday or saturday? (i'm free any time tho)

stephenplusplus commented 10 years ago

Video.

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Yes to all this! It has dragged on way to looooooooooooooooooo...ooong. Maybe we should do an Hangout text or video to set some highlevel AI of what needs doing and go through the ost.io app.

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sindresorhus commented 10 years ago

Forgot that Hangouts just got support for gifs. I'd prefer gifs.

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passy commented 10 years ago

Hangout tomorrow would work for me, but Addy is still abroad in some crazy timezone isn't he? On Nov 1, 2013 11:53 PM, "Sindre Sorhus" notifications@github.com wrote:

Forgot that Hangouts just got support for gifs. I'd prefer gifs.

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addyosmani commented 10 years ago

Don't let me be a bottleneck :) I'm currently in an airport in Tokyo. Will be back on land tomorrow. Can do Monday / anytime next week if we need to wait, otherwise will catch-up on notes!

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sindresorhus commented 10 years ago

Would be nice to have everyone there. Tuesday 13:37 EDT?

paulmillr commented 10 years ago

Yes

passy commented 10 years ago

Works for me. :)

(That's 18:37 UTC if WolframAlpha didn't lie to me.)

jeremychone commented 10 years ago

I do not want to intrude, but if it is ok with everybody, I would love to join as well.

I have been wanting to sample HTML5/Cloud app for a long time to share my approach, and I have some bandwidth to work on it for the next few months.

I assume it will be over Google Hangout.

Jeremy,

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Works for me. :)

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addyosmani commented 10 years ago

Works for me. Does anyone want to send out an invite? :)

sindresorhus commented 10 years ago

Alright, sent out an invite ;)

Here's the Hangout link if anyone else would like to join: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/c2luZHJlc29yaHVzQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ.eo1gh9shbnv5p8n1b58t2pfrus

getsetbro commented 10 years ago

If it is okay I'll jump on just to listen.

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:41 AM, Sindre Sorhus notifications@github.comwrote:

Alright, sent out an invite ;)

Here's the Hangout link if anyone else would like to join:

https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/c2luZHJlc29yaHVzQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ.eo1gh9shbnv5p8n1b58t2pfrus

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sindresorhus commented 10 years ago

Sure

sindresorhus commented 10 years ago

Thanks for a productive meeting guys.

Meeting notes: http://oksoclap.com/p/tasteapp

addyosmani commented 10 years ago

:+1: thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate you taking the notes, @sindresorhus!

paulmillr commented 10 years ago

Ost.io proposal: https://github.com/tastejs/TasteApp/issues/4

getsetbro commented 10 years ago

Here is an old but good. MediaExplorer by Holly Schinsky http://devgirl.org/files/MediaExplorer/#/ http://devgirl.org/2013/03/21/fun-with-angularjs/

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Ost.io proposal: #4

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addyosmani commented 10 years ago

It's been a while since our last meeting to discuss the app idea we'd like to move ahead with. The choices we came down to were:

Perhaps we could meet again some time mid January to talk about this again?

jeremychone commented 10 years ago

Yes definitely.

Sorry all, I have been swamped and while I did some work, nothing worth sending a formal update. However, let me use this opportunity to share the work I have done.

First, a question for Addy, do you think we should just take the angular app? or do something more/different. My current take is to do something a little bit more and different.

Here are the current spec and first wireframe.

1) Core objects and relationships: Project 1-* Task; Task - Label; Project 1-* Team; User - Team

2) Privilege system: The application will show the beginning of a extensible priviledge system. At this point, we will just have privileges at the Team level, and constrain Teams to belong to one and only one project. When a user create a project, he will be automatically assigned to a default team "owner" for this project with all the privileges. Then, the owner can create subsequent teams with some privileges and add users to those teams.

3) Routing: This application will support deep-linking/routing for the following screen: project, all sub-tabs of project, and task of a project, and team of a project. Format will be like

/project/[projectId]/[subTabName] for the subtabs, or

/project/[projectId]/task/[taskId] for a project task and similar for

team.

4) Table Sorting: The task table will be sortable (and should have a toggle show close -not shown in the wireframe below-).

5) In place [cell] editing: One of the goal of the application is to show the benefit of an MVC model, and for this, the UI will allow the user to edit mostly anything on the screen and see the effect real time. So, all the table cell (beside the checkbox and ID) will be in place editable, and clicking on the "id" of a task will go to the task screen.

6) Task screen as tabs: Another concept that this application will show is how custom the UI can be, especially in the deep-linking and screen management. For example, when opening a task, it will add another tab on the right of the "Tasks" tab with the task id (and first couple of words). In a later stage, task tabs will be pinable.

Here is the first wireframe screen.

[image: Inline image 2]

Feedback welcome, and looking forward to our next Hangout meeting.

Jeremy,

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It's been a while since our last meeting to discuss the app idea we'd like to move ahead with. The choices we came down to were:

Perhaps we could meet again some time mid January to talk about this again?

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paulmillr commented 10 years ago

Let's meet this / next saturday.

jeremychone commented 10 years ago

Saturdays are tricky for me. I might be able to do it around 10am next sat.

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addyosmani commented 10 years ago

Would sometime during mon-fri this week or next work? Saturdays tend to be a little tricky for me too.

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Saturdays are tricky for me. I might be able to do it around 10am next sat.

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paulmillr commented 10 years ago

absolutely, no problem

imbhargav5 commented 7 years ago

I am thinking of building a mini Trello clone. Have the common-utils ready. Will keep you guys posted on the developments. I intend to cover these features. Currently working on a react-example.