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Use of terms to describe media items that will potentially never be available online #52

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1. Provide an ac Term Name or Label. dcterms:available 
http://terms.gbif.org/wiki/Audubon_Core_Term_List_%281.0_normative%29#dcterms:av
ailable ac:variant 
http://terms.gbif.org/wiki/Audubon_Core_Term_List_%281.0_normative%29#variant 
with value of "Offline"

2. Describe the defect or lack of clarity you find in the term. From Alexey 
Zinovjev: dcterms:available: 
  -- According to Notes, it could be particularly useful when metadata
  exists without media itself. Correct? 
  -- I did not check the links, and don't know how it could be done
  (when media will never be available). -- I would suggest giving an
  example.

Note from Steve: I'm not sure that this can be achieved within the standard 
itself, but it would be useful to have an some examples of records of various 
sorts somewhere (on another page on the wiki?) including a record that is of a 
form that will never be available online.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by steve.ba...@vanderbilt.edu on 5 Apr 2013 at 8:58

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The bullet in the Notes for this variant is somewhat unclear to me.  It is 
"Offline: Service Access Point provides data about an offline resource."

That could be taken to mean that the access point will deliver \something/, but 
not a representation of the resource. Does that mean more metadata about the 
resource than is already provided by the AC record?  If yes, perhaps the issue 
is resolved simply by making this say "Offline: Service Access Point provides 
additional metadata about an offline resource than is available from the AC 
record."

An example might be a work of art, such as the one about much metadata, 
including a digital photograph, that  is to be found at 
http://www.wildlifeart.org/collection/artists/artist-carl-rungius-262/artwork-am
erican-black-bear-30/ 
which would be the accessURI for an acces point on the offline resource that is 
the original painting.

On the other hand, 
http://www.wildlifeart.org/wp-content/media/artworks/1994082-large.jpg is the 
accessURI for perhaps a different resource altogether (or perhaps not) that is 
a digital image made from the original.  

Gregor may have something to add here.

Original comment by morris.bob on 6 Apr 2013 at 4:06

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
See also Issue 63 regarding providing examples 
http://code.google.com/p/auduboncore/issues/detail?id=63

Original comment by steve.ba...@vanderbilt.edu on 9 Apr 2013 at 1:25

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While this perhaps belongs in a Best Practices, or an Example Manual, I have 
drafted two use case examples about offline resources.  I solicit comments on 
them from Gregor, and then will add a little guidance to the spec, but will 
this issue, not the spec, as a pointer to the examples.

The first usecase is a resource that is a physical painting.  I offer 
http://terms.gbif.org/wiki/Audubon2Chipmunks as an example. 

The second usecase is an embargoed digital resource.  I offer 
http://terms.gbif.org/wiki/ACRightWhale as an example.  The example offers a 
bit of georeference, so is an example of a picture asserted as evidence for an 
occurrence, even though the picture is not available.

Original comment by morris.bob on 5 Jun 2013 at 1:42

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AC is explicitly designed to handle this situation by providing Metadata but no 
access point. This seems not explained well enough. 

Please make a suggestion where you will add it to the documentation and I will 
revise the text then.

Original comment by g.m.hage...@gmail.com on 5 Jun 2013 at 5:17

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Gregor- I suggest to provide something as though it were going in a section of 
the terms doc in a section named "Offline Resources" to go after Sec 4 
"Layers".  Best to write it as plain text in email to and let me put it in 
since I am off-and-on editing.

Original comment by morris.bob on 10 Jun 2013 at 5:04

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I am resolving this as WontFix (before 1.0) and propose a Task to draft 
"Applicability Statement for AC for the use of offline materials."

Original comment by morris.bob on 25 Aug 2013 at 3:14

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Original comment by morris.bob on 21 Oct 2013 at 11:08