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I concur and will try to get other committee members to make a suggestion.
Nominally making Annette the owner as it seems like her experience is relevant
Original comment by morris.bob
on 3 Jun 2013 at 3:16
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Original comment by morris.bob
on 5 Jul 2013 at 4:02
Original comment by morris.bob
on 5 Jul 2013 at 4:04
I really don't remember the term "unmodified" object being in there before, but
it has been a while since I worked on this. I agree that stating unmodified is
restrictive, and should be removed.
An additional term applying to setting that could be included within the
constrained vocabulary could also be "modified"
The goal of this is to avoid situations where photographs of specimens in
artifical settings are passed off as typical of natural habitat. I know of two
photographers and one movie crew that typically create backdrops or sets for
the vertebrates they were photographing/filming. Whether the object istself is
modified or not is a separate question, which I would hope it would be noted in
the physical description at least.
Original comment by alols...@gmail.com
on 16 Jul 2013 at 3:10
So my minor edit to
http://terms.gbif.org/wiki/Audubon_Core_Term_List_(DRAFT_of_1.0_normative)#ac:ph
ysicalSetting especially the Definition and the Notes. I suggested "Edited"
instead of "Modified", but neither captures all cases.
As a matter of knowledge representation, it may be quite difficult to
distinguish a zoo from a physical set established entirely for the purpose of
acquiring the media. Ditto for an aquarium, where, even more than in a zoo,
some of the setting is quite artificial and intended to serve as a simulation
of natural features; exactly what such photographers do. Also true of dioramas
in natural history museums.
The problem is likely to be that biologists probably think that zoos are
"Natural" because professional biologists have made the simulations as close to
typical habitiat of the species in the wild as local conditions, the tolerance
of the critters, and the zoo budgets permit. Similarly for botanical gardens.
I can live with whatever you and Gregor agree to. Possibly we should add to
the notes something like "Communities of practice should form best practices
for the use of these controlled terms."
Original comment by morris.bob
on 16 Jul 2013 at 10:21
So I would not use the term edited, as the physical setting can be not only
digitally edited, but physically modified. "Edited" nowadays implies digital.
modified is an overarching term that is better suited. "Modified" would
include the case of an enclosed setting within a natural environment, for
instance, and would also be suited in select instances for zoos. But having
worked in a zoo for years, most zoo folks know that the setting is artifical.
Providing that as an example will help folks select the appropriate vocabulary.
And we can only do what we can do. As you suggest, adding to the notes
something about best practices is appropriate. (your phrasing works.). And,
as we have stated for most of these terms - many of these type of suggestions
do belong in a Best Practices document; we just need someone to write it first.
Actually, first we need someone to pay for someone to write it. ;-).
Original comment by alols...@gmail.com
on 19 Jul 2013 at 8:36
I have added "Communities of practice should form best practices for the use of
these controlled terms." to the Notes item of ac:physicalSetting and am closing
this as Fixed.
Original comment by morris.bob
on 18 Aug 2013 at 4:13
Original comment by morris.bob
on 18 Aug 2013 at 4:51
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Original comment by morris.bob
on 25 Aug 2013 at 9:02
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steve.ba...@vanderbilt.edu
on 6 Apr 2013 at 9:19