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Joint TDWG/RDA group on metadata standards for attribution of physical and digital collection stewardship
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concept:measured #31

Open dshorthouse opened 4 years ago

dshorthouse commented 4 years ago

measured (concept)
Definition Determined the value of a measurement
Existing concept
Existing namespace
Existing concept identifier
Format string
Examples "measured"
Notes
PietrH commented 4 years ago

Is digitization a form of measurement? What about Photogrammetry?

dshorthouse commented 4 years ago

@PietrH Good question. The intent of this term was to align with the existing DwC term, http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/measurementDeterminedBy. Should we have a more granular definition here than that DwC term?

PietrH commented 4 years ago

@dshorthouse I'm a bit confused, so the value of measured: would be a string of person names? or person identifiers? What is the added information of repeating this over just using measurementDeterminedBy in the MeasurementOrFact table?

The ideal solution would be if the MeasurementOrFact table could refer to identifiers in a 'people' table where all the other information can be found. As using just string such as the http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/measurementDeterminedBy example Peter Desmet | Stijn Van Hoey can still lead to ambiguity about who exactly you are referring to.

dshorthouse commented 4 years ago

@PietrH – what you're commenting on here is an option for an entry in the #22 term as part of the Actions controlled vocabulary. So in your example, a partial tabular representation in the extension might look like this, with occurrenceID here the foreign key to a single entry in the core:

occurrenceID name identifier action displayOrder
1001 Peter Desmet https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8442-8025 measured 1
1001 Stijn Van Hoey https://orcid.org/0000-0001-6413-3185 measured 2

Now, what you are also touching on is the notion that we already have an Extended Measurement of Fact as an extension to Darwin Core and it too has a term, measurementDeterminedBy as does the core. This is functionally equivalent to a identifiedBy term in the Darwin Core Identification History extension where it too has exactly the same term in the core. So, what is the lateral relationship between these terms in extensions to this present draft extension and how it more granularly represents actions and agents? In a word: none. The only partial solution to this is as @matdillen suggests and use the newly minted GBIF namespaced terms like recordedByID, identifiedByID in amended versions of those other extensions and ask that there be a full complement of options for all the actions we have represented in this controlled vocabulary such as measuredByID, preparedByID, etc. That's as ugly as it sounds.

RBGE-Herbarium commented 4 years ago

The act of recording a measurement of or fact about an rdfs:Resource (http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#Resource).

This would be a direct reference to the existing TDWG term MeasurementOrFact http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/MeasurementOrFact