Closed peterdesmet closed 3 years ago
I agree that a remarks field is probably the best choice for now. I quick search on GBIF shows the term domesticated showing up in occurrenceRemarks, altough I think it's much more bound to the individual than to the occurrence.
Is individualRemarks
a dwc field? I can't find it on this list: https://dwc.tdwg.org/list/
I know domesticated organisms are sometimes considered subspecies taxa, in which case it could also be under the Taxon class as a taxonRemarks
. Or on a less taxonomic level, as an organismRemarks
I'd be interested to hear your opinion on this.
(interesting @peterdesmet. you write:
@PietrH sorry, I meant organismRemarks, not individualRemarks
@debpaul yes, I’m part of that publication too 😊. Should look if any of those vocabs are good at capturing this.
@debpaul the only one that comes close would be degreeOfEstablishment = cultivated
@qgroom, would you use this to indicate that the observed animal was domesticated?
Do we know what iNaturalist does for this? Maybe they don't use Darwin Core at all since the captive/cultivated tag means they are kept casual grade.
No, iNat observations that are captive are considered casual and don't appear on GBIF:
For other iNat obs establishmentMeans
is set to wild
: https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2981047108
Would be interested to see other examples and any controlled lists on this topic. I've run into questions regarding cases like semi-feral/stray animals, and livestock that are in captivity at some times and largely free-roaming at others. Would these all be classified as domesticated?
There is obviously a difference between a domesticated animal and a domesticated species.
degreeOfEstablishment
could be used to indicate an animal or plant is in a domesticated situation, but not that an animal is a domesticated species. Therefore, I don't see how it could be used with camera trap data unless the camera was sited in a cage or enclosed field where there were domesticated animals. If you see a cat or dog on a camera trap you don't have much evidence to decide its degreeOfEstablishment
.
So going back to the original question. I think the answer is that it depends. Does the field is_domesticated
refer to the taxon or the individual animal?
@qgroom it refers to the observed animal in this case. It is an assessment of the annotator, e.g. this is a domesticated cat, dog, horse, cow, rather than a wild one.
@qgroom it refers to the observed animal in this case. It is an assessment of the annotator, e.g. this is a domesticated cat, dog, horse, cow, rather than a wild one.
That's good, as long as the assessor doesn't assign the status to all potentially domestic animals. It is particularly difficult to know if a cat is feral or wild, but because the latter is likely to have been neutered it makes a big difference.
@qgroom knowing the above, what field would you then recommend?
degreeOfEstablishment
is fine where it is clear to the assessor what they are assessing.
In the case of feral cats and dogs then it might be better to use dwc:establishmentMeans
to say that they are an introduced species.
It is a generic mapping for all camera trap data, so there isn't too much information except:
true
if the observed individual(s) are domesticated.
So it might be a dog on a leash (degreeOfEstablishment: cultivated
) or a domesticated cat or rock pigeon that turned feral and is breeding (degreeOfEstablishment: reproducing
). It's hard to tell the difference between the two from the domesticated
flag, so I think the only thing we can say is establishmentMeans: introduced
, as a:
Statement about whether an organism or organisms have been introduced to a given place and time through the direct or indirect activity of modern humans.
@qgroom agree?
So going back to the original question. I think the answer is that it depends. Does the field
is_domesticated
refer to the taxon or the individual animal?
@qgroom , To my understanding domestication is a process that takes multiple generations that inflicts a change into the genetic code and behavior and appearance of the species. If this results in a different taxon/subspecies is a matter of taxon-concept. But As I see it a feral goat dependent from escaped individuals during the great famine, is still domesticated, and an elephant who's ancestors have been in captivity for generations, is still not domesticated. (example from Clason, A. T. (1977). Jacht en veeteelt van prehistorie tot middeleeuwen. Fibula-Van Dishoeck.
)
To my understanding domestication inflicts large changes in the phenotype and behavior of the animal, that are hereditary. Al tough the exact definition is much more complex: 10.1073/pnas.1501711112
So I would say domestication as a status is a property of a taxon. This is similar as to how it's handled in iNaturalist where a research grade (so 'wild') observation of a domesticated pigeon is possible (and has a different taxonID from rock pigeon).
@PietrH True, that's why I asked the question. It seems as though they are not using the word domesticated in this literal genetic sense, but something more general that can be applied to a single observation.
BTW: is the "Camera Trap Data Package schema" actually an official standard?
What constitutes a standard as official? TDWG recognition?
Well perhaps "official" is not the right word. But any commonly used data format for camera trap data would be interesting
Hi all, thanks for the input. We opted to drop the is domesticated
field altogether and make use of subspecies to identify domesticated species, e.g. Canis lupus familiaris
for dog.
@qgroom yes, Camera Trap Data Package schema is intended to be a commonly used data format for camera trap data! More info at https://gitlab.com/oscf/camtrap-dp It is why I have included a generic transformation from that format to Darwin Core in this dwc-for-biologging repository. I have just used it to publish our first camera trap dataset to GBIF: https://doi.org/10.15468/5tb6ze
In camera trap data, researchers often wants to differentiate between wild and domesticated animals. The Camera Trap Data Package schema has a field
is_domesticated
to indicate just that (while annotating). I was curious how one would express this information in Darwin Core.So far, I'm simply thinking
,individualRemarks: domesticated
organismRemarks: domesticated
. Suggestions welcome.