Migrate mailmain to new server / VH

timrobertson100 commented 8 years ago

Mailman resides on the "old" TDWG servers (i.e. the ones we are migrating from and will be powered down as soon as reasonable).

This should be migrated to a new VH on GBIF (CentOS 7), with the installation documented properly on the GBIF server wikis.

This is to be done after the conference traffic dies down.

peterdesmet commented 8 years ago

@mdoering, is this something you can pick up?

mdoering commented 8 years ago

Yes, the week after TDWG sounds good. Some setup questions:

do we want to also continue with the postfix aliases or are these handled now by MailChimp? These are all the tdwg roles and committees, e.g. chairman@tdwg.org, secretary@tdwg.org, exec@tdwg.org
we keep the current 4 lists: tdwg, tdwg-content, tdwg-phylo, tdwg-tag http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/admin
what should happen with the archives of the old lists such as tdwg-sdd or tapir? I dont think they are exposed anywhere right now. As a start I would just copy the archive files

mdoering commented 8 years ago

How about we move the larger postfix lists (conference, xcom, convener) to mailman and make the others backed by a simple mysql table which we can modify through mysql admin

peterdesmet commented 8 years ago

@mdoering I'll let others ping in if this is a good way forward. Do you need @tdwg/exec decision on this?

mdoering commented 8 years ago

@peterdesmet could you discuss in @tdwg/exec please what to do with the postfix aliases? I think we should move to something more maintainable than the postfix config files for those small groups, dont you think? maybe also just mailman? I think that'll be my favorite

peterdesmet commented 8 years ago

What are (the) postfix aliases exactly? Not familiar with these things and I assume neither is the exec.

mdoering commented 8 years ago

we use the following postfix aliases, most importantly the ones listed above chairman, convener, secretary, exec and xcom@tdwg.org

The current mailman lives on lists.tdwg.org I assume we keep using that domain for the new list server and update the virtual host at https://github.com/tdwg/infrastructure/blob/master/vhosts/lists.tdwg.org.conf

sblum commented 8 years ago

Maintaining the postfix alias file is not difficult, if you have login access to server and some very simple instructions (thanks Markus!). The main benefit of moving the longer lists to mailman would be the spam filter that gets applied to those lists. The alias for the exec gets a little bit of spam. I don't think either of these are big issues.

Markus, If you want to set up maintenance of the other aliases in MySQL, that might be helpful, but I don't think the motivation to switch away from the postfix file is that high. So I would say do it ONLY if it's very easy.

mdoering commented 8 years ago

well, the aliases do not change that often also so I think I keep things as they were then. At least for now.

Should we apply some cleaning to the file? Looks to me we can remove the personal TIP member aliases at least

sblum commented 8 years ago

I'm tasked with adding the new members of the executive committee, but we are also just starting a run-off election to determine the final member of the exec. (There was a tie.) I can do the clean up then. Thanks. Installation and configuration of the software on the new server are the things that you are more uniquely qualified for ;-)

peterdesmet commented 8 years ago

Do we still need @tdwg/exec input for this?

mdoering commented 8 years ago

I think for now we don't need any further input. I will keep all mail related configs in github

mdoering commented 8 years ago

@sblum could you look at the latest virtual file please? I'm keeping all configs in the github repository, so it would be nice if you could do changes in github first and then pull them on the server (in roots home) so they become available

sblum commented 8 years ago

This file is now updated for 2016. See updates listed in commit description.

-Stan

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 7:31 AM, Markus Döring notifications@github.com wrote:

@sblum https://github.com/sblum could you look at the latest virtual https://github.com/tdwg/infrastructure/blob/master/mail/postfix/virtual file please? I'm keeping all configs in the github repository, so it would be nice if you could do changes in github first and then pull them on the server (in roots home) so they become available

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/tdwg/infrastructure/issues/53#issuecomment-171674426.

mdoering commented 8 years ago

mailman, postifx and apache VH lists.tdwg.org are migrated to the new machine

mdoering commented 8 years ago

postfix and mailman have been stopped on owl

tdwg / infrastructure

Migrate mailmain to new server / VH #53