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MIDS Element - 12. dateCollected #24

Open RBGE-Herbarium opened 3 years ago

RBGE-Herbarium commented 3 years ago
Information Element Name dateCollected
Modified 2023/12/14
Label Date Collected
Definition The date/time at which a gathering event occurred. For specimen gathering, this is the date/time when the event was recorded.
Purpose To provide accurate information about when the specimen was collected.
Applicable standard(s)/recommendation(s) It is strongly recommended to use ISO 8601 standard with extended format for human readability. “s.d.” (sine diem - without date) or equivalent if not present or not known.
Examples 2023-12-08; s.d.
Required Yes (Biological)
Constraints
Element specification status agreed; included in specification
Notes none
hardistyar commented 3 years ago

Should we adopt the DwC term name 'eventDate' instead of using CollectionDate? Also, there's been a suggestion (2nd TG, 2021-01-07) to move this to MIDS-1. Is that realistic to do?

matdillen commented 3 years ago

@hardistyar I would not recommend CollectionDate, in particular given the existence of the unrelated CollectionCode. We could reuse the terminology of Event or Gathering. Another alternative could be dateCollected.

If we move this to MIDS 1, is 1800-01-01/2020-01-26 a valid value?

hardistyar commented 3 years ago

@matdillen I agree it is best to use already established terms such as eventDate. The problem we have is to know whether we should preferably base on Darwin Core terms or ABCD terms, or an aligned term. See #41.

A range would be a valid value.

PipBrewer commented 2 years ago

I would argue that collection date should not be included in MIDS 2 for palaeontological/geological specimens. It is essential for collection management purposes (e.g., to meet SPECTRUM standards), but not essential for a large proportion of research done on these types of specimens.

emhaston commented 2 years ago

Element information updated based on discussion at meeting 18, 13 October

CollectingDate Required: Yes (Biological) No (Geo & Palaeo) How do we handle verbatim dates? We should definitely make a recommendation, perhaps in line with DwC/ABCD date fields? Could be the same recommendation for all dates in MIDS.

emhaston commented 2 years ago

Name updated from CollectionDate to dateCollected as a proposal based on Mathias's suggestion.

samleeflang commented 1 year ago

I would say that this maps to ABCD(EFG) term:

                        <abcd:Gathering>
                            <abcd:DateTime>
                                <abcd:ISODateTimeEnd>31.12.1978</abcd:ISODateTimeEnd>
                            </abcd:DateTime>

Unit -> Gathering -> DateTime -> ISODateTimeEnd or I have also seen example where ISODateTimeStart has been used. So I would say where either one of these is present we can use it. If they are both present, do we envision a start/end in MIDS for dateCollected or just pick the first that is encountered, for example default the start otherwise look for the end? abcd:gathering/dateTime/isodateTimeStart, abcd:gathering/dateTime/isodateTimeEnd