Teleconference 29 January 2019

nielsklazenga commented 5 years ago

The next meeting of the TNC will be Tuesday, 29 January 2019 at 20:00 UTC. Times for other time zones are in the table below. Zoom conference details will follow later.

The following will be on the agenda:

TNC charter

I don't want to spend too much meeting time on this, so I propose a little hackathon in February.

Workshop before TDWG 2019

This is not the workshop at biodiversity_next for which we submitted the proposal in November, but a longer workshop for TNC core members and some other invitees before the conference (i.e. a names_first workshop). I think our meetings so far have been very useful, but they are always over very quickly, and I think it would be valuable to have a longer meeting where we are all in the same room (also, when daylight-saving ends, or starts, it will be harder to have teleconferences where everybody can be). So I would like to discuss a two-day workshop before the conference. The timing will be good, as by then we have lots of things to cut short and.or complete.

New standard document

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcfjhh0ztmXKz7P9G0ni7vYZc3MtH4LLxlCZjswF2k4

This will hopefully be the main course. In order for people to get a better sense of how we are tracking I have divided the things we need to discuss into five broad categories, here given in the order I think we should discuss them:

Core terms (#26) This includes everything in TaxonomicName and the name and publication details in TaxonomicNameUsage.
Relationships (#16) This is really core in TCS, but has taken a bit of a back seat in the TDWG Taxon Concept LSID Ontology and certainly in implementations. We need to get them back up there, which is why I've put them right after the Core terms.
Typification (#28) Needs no explanation.
Circumscription (#27) This is ostensibly very important in TCS, but unclear (to me at least) how to properly implement, especially the character circumscription. I am not sure if there are any implementations that have implemented circumscription and think it has become less important (I mean strictly for what we are talking about in the TNC) now that we are talking about taxonomic name usages rather than taxon concepts.
Facts I don't think this is in TCS, but is mentioned in the TDWG Taxon Concept LSID Ontology and is important in the Berlin Model. I think facts are better dealt with by another interest group.

At this time we are still very much in the 'Core terms' category. At the meeting we will revisit the authorship, as it has been the subject of a fair amount of discussion after our previous meeting and then move on to core concepts in the TaxonomicNameUsage class.

Location	Local Time	Time Zone	UTC Offset
Melbourne (Australia - Victoria)	Wednesday, 30 January 2019 at 7:00:00 am	AEDT	UTC+11 hours
Wellington (New Zealand - Wellington)	Wednesday, 30 January 2019 at 9:00:00 am	NZDT	UTC+13 hours
Honolulu (USA - Hawaii)	Tuesday, 29 January 2019 at 10:00:00 am	HST	UTC-10 hours
San Francisco (USA - California)	Tuesday, 29 January 2019 at 12:00:00 noon	PST	UTC-8 hours
St. Louis (USA - Missouri)	Tuesday, 29 January 2019 at 2:00:00 pm	CST	UTC-6 hours
New York (USA - New York)	Tuesday, 29 January 2019 at 3:00:00 pm	EST	UTC-5 hours
London (United Kingdom - England)	Tuesday, 29 January 2019 at 8:00:00 pm	GMT	UTC
Berlin (Germany - Berlin)	Tuesday, 29 January 2019 at 9:00:00 pm	CET	UTC+1 hour
Corresponding UTC (GMT)	Tuesday, 29 January 2019 at 20:00:00

nielsklazenga commented 5 years ago

The Zoom link for the meeting is https://zoom.us/j/242495160. I'll be happy to send a Google, Outlook or Yahoo calendar item on request.

I have created a Google Doc for meeting notes, but we'll mostly be working in the Taxonomic Names and Usages document.

ghwhitbread commented 5 years ago

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deepreef commented 5 years ago

It worked for me:

https://zoom.us/j/242495160

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I have created a Google Doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0vPiktJM4Hx3x3Cuouq3WNCDAOEXDmX29yUG8HAGHU/edit?usp=sharing for meeting notes, but we'll mostly be working in the Taxonomic Names and Usages https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcfjhh0ztmXKz7P9G0ni7vYZc3MtH4LLxlCZjswF2k4/edit?usp=sharing document.

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WUlate commented 5 years ago

It said to be waiting for the host. -W. On Tuesday, January 29, 2019, 2:07:14 PM CST, Greg Whitbread notifications@github.com wrote:

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The Zoom link for the meeting is https://zoom.us/j/242495160. I'll be happy to send a Google, Outlook or Yahoo calendar item on request.

I have created a Google Doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0vPiktJM4Hx3x3Cuouq3WNCDAOEXDmX29yUG8HAGHU/edit?usp=sharing for meeting notes, but we'll mostly be working in the Taxonomic Names and Usages https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcfjhh0ztmXKz7P9G0ni7vYZc3MtH4LLxlCZjswF2k4/edit?usp=sharing document.

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nielsklazenga commented 5 years ago

Yes, sorry, I was a bit late.

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I have created a Google Doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0vPiktJM4Hx3x3Cuouq3WNCDAOEXDmX29yUG8HAGHU/edit?usp=sharing for meeting notes, but we'll mostly be working in the Taxonomic Names and Usages https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcfjhh0ztmXKz7P9G0ni7vYZc3MtH4LLxlCZjswF2k4/edit?usp=sharing document.

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nielsklazenga commented 5 years ago

Hi Greg, Can you get in now? I started the meeting.

Niels

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I have created a Google Doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0vPiktJM4Hx3x3Cuouq3WNCDAOEXDmX29yUG8HAGHU/edit?usp=sharing for meeting notes, but we'll mostly be working in the Taxonomic Names and Usages https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcfjhh0ztmXKz7P9G0ni7vYZc3MtH4LLxlCZjswF2k4/edit?usp=sharing document.

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jgerbracht commented 5 years ago

Niels,

Zoom says I'm on hold. I think you actually will need to let me into the meeting.

Jeff

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From: Niels Klazenga notifications@github.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 3:13:49 PM To: tdwg/tnc Cc: Subscribed Subject: Re: [tdwg/tnc] Teleconference 29 January 2019 (#29)

Hi Greg, Can you get in now? I started the meeting.

Niels

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I have created a Google Doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0vPiktJM4Hx3x3Cuouq3WNCDAOEXDmX29yUG8HAGHU/edit?usp=sharing for meeting notes, but we'll mostly be working in the Taxonomic Names and Usages https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcfjhh0ztmXKz7P9G0ni7vYZc3MtH4LLxlCZjswF2k4/edit?usp=sharing document.

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nielsklazenga commented 5 years ago

Hi Jeff, I just let you in. Can you hear us?

Niels

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Niels,

Zoom says I'm on hold. I think you actually will need to let me into the meeting.

Jeff

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From: Niels Klazenga notifications@github.com<mailto:notifications@github.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 3:13:49 PM To: tdwg/tnc Cc: Subscribed Subject: Re: [tdwg/tnc] Teleconference 29 January 2019 (#29)

Hi Greg, Can you get in now? I started the meeting.

Niels

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I have created a Google Doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0vPiktJM4Hx3x3Cuouq3WNCDAOEXDmX29yUG8HAGHU/edit?usp=sharing for meeting notes, but we'll mostly be working in the Taxonomic Names and Usages https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcfjhh0ztmXKz7P9G0ni7vYZc3MtH4LLxlCZjswF2k4/edit?usp=sharing document.

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afuchs1 commented 5 years ago

Hi Niels,

my apologies I fully meant to join in today but was driving back from the coast unexpectedly so it slipped my mind. I’ll try and catch up soon.

Any thing specific I should try and catch up on?

cheers Anne

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Yes, sorry, I was a bit late.

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I have created a Google Doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0vPiktJM4Hx3x3Cuouq3WNCDAOEXDmX29yUG8HAGHU/edit?usp=sharing for meeting notes, but we'll mostly be working in the Taxonomic Names and Usages https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcfjhh0ztmXKz7P9G0ni7vYZc3MtH4LLxlCZjswF2k4/edit?usp=sharing document.

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