Adding HSDP-1D to the Device List

[Vaasref]

The simplest and less expensive (by no mean cheap) printer from the company specialized in e-warfare, SlapDragon.

The speed is not defined yet. But preliminary concept was 0.5 page/s with 40 lines/page.

The Device ID ans Device Type are also not defined since there is no corresponding type yet.

[andyleap]

20 lines per second is crazy fast. I would think something like 1~2 lines a second would be good. There should also be some mention of the fact that a spark printer will require specialized paper, most likely black paper with a very thin layer of aluminum.

[sctjkc01]

You might wish to consider putting the HSDP in the device list (TC-IDs.md) as well...

Additionally, just because a type doesn't exist didn't stop others from devising their own subtypes. You can make your own...

[Vaasref]

@andyleap : The purpose of the printer is to dump data.

It needs to be fast to be able to do real time data logging. If it can't be fast enough then it can't be SlapDragon since SlapDragon would not design a product for something else than e-war.

So if you are talking about black paper, I assume you looked at printing technologies. then you would also have seen that 20 lines/s is realistic.

Of course using sparks to print will come with high power consumption and EM sig.

[andyleap]

No, 20 lines/s is not realistic. Not for in game, just barely for real life. If you were talking impact printer, you might have a chance, but while a high speed modern line printer could do up to 2000 lines per minute, putting that kind of thing into the game is insane. Not to mention that every example of spark printers that I've seen is sitting at a line per second or so. If you are wanting to log data, I would suggest going with something that's actually meant to be a storage device.

[Vaasref]

What is sheet of paper if not a storage device ?

With the storage capacity of current HDD you can't beat the paper. With 3MiB for every 1000pages in text mode.

And paper is a pain to hack into btw. Good luck trying to destroy records remotely, but if you want to access data you need a miracle.

I can still revert to simple line matrix if that really bugs you.

Also to talk more about how to make it in game, a block of paper is dead simple to model. The printer itself only has one moving part (a rotating cylinder) and is also visually pretty boring and simple. I don't understand why you say that 20l/s is "insane" for a game.

[andyleap]

Paper is not a storage device, it's a static output device. And I said impact, not line printer, as an impact printer does match up with what you are describing, and can be very fast.. Plus, what's the point of outputting 20 lines per second when you can't even read that fast? Are you planning on putting a scanner in the game too?

Edit: another thing, go have fun hacking a floppy disk sitting on a desk remotely.

[Vaasref]

The point of logging is logging. You don't need to read logs as fast as it come. If you have a sensor that does not work with magic, your need to log things.

And with a printer you don't need to manually remove te paper from it to make it hack safe.

You do with a floppies. Also floppies are vulnerable to dust, heat, EM attacks, solar flares and they cannot be read by humans. Floppies are a poor choice for security.

Paper is a storage media, when you write something on paper you are storing data on it. It's the whole point of paper.

And for that kind of purpose it's the best.

[sctjkc01]

If we’re listing the fallacies of floppies, might I just point out that paper...

• Is not too good with heat (too much and it’ll ignite).
  • Is a fire hazard.
• Is not too good with water (too much and it’s soggy, turning into a mushy pulp).
• Is insecure to attacks with the visible spectrum (can be read by literally anyone).
• Requires light to read (cannot be read in the dark).
• Requires a human to transfer information back into a computer.
• Can only be used once (print something on it, and that surface can't be used again).

NO storage medium (using the loosest form of the term) is without its cons.

[paultech]

This got a bit out of hand

Changes needed to merge: TC-IDs.md needs updated with a printer type The speed of the printer needs to be decreased 5 lines/second is in range for me.

[paultech]

superseded by #34