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OLTII #10

Open smith-371 opened 2 years ago

smith-371 commented 2 years ago

from the bible:

Ng diak a ngeral sebechel el rullii el mo oltii a klengar er ngii.

what is OLTII here? it looks like we don't have in the dictionary yet.

Lukes-Imeyuns commented 2 years ago

Hmm... Oltii?

What verse is this? Want to look it up.

Thanks.

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from the bible:

Ng diak a ngeral sebechel el rullii el mo oltii a klengar er ngii.

what is OLTII here? it looks like we don't have in the dictionary yet.

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smith-371 commented 2 years ago

MATEUS [16:26]: Ng diak a ngeral sebechel el rullii el mo oltii a klengar er ngii.

MARKUS [12:3]: Ma re chad er a sers a mildechemii ngii el mesiungel, e cholebedii, e oltii el di chim.

Gnalu commented 2 years ago

Replace return/ oluut main word.

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MATEUS [16:26]: Ng diak a ngeral sebechel el rullii el mo oltii a klengar er ngii.

MARKUS [12:3]: Ma re chad er a sers a mildechemii ngii el mesiungel, e cholebedii, e oltii el di chim.

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s-o-u-a-n-g commented 2 years ago

When I've heard that word used in this context it's been "olutii", but then, again, it might be a localized dialect difference.

Like people from Keiukl who I have heard say MISkebesang and we say MESkebesang. Or it could be an individual person's speech pattern.

Gnalu commented 2 years ago

I have heard both: Oluut; olutii; oltii Uluut; ulutii; ultii. Could be like Souang said: could be Keiukl and Desbedall or Eouldaob and Babeldaob lingo.

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When I've heard that word used in this context it's been "olutii", but then, again, it might be a localized dialect difference.

Like people from Keiukl who I have heard say MISkebesang and we say MESkebesang. Or it could be an individual person's speech pattern.

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s-o-u-a-n-g commented 2 years ago

Good points, Ulang.

And ulluut and olluut. I'm not good at what part of speech this is. The first one is past tense and the second is active in the present tense.

Gnalu commented 2 years ago

For the same word as well, some enunciate it with double l and some don’t.

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Good points, Ulang.

And ulluut and olluut. I'm not good at what part of speech this is. The first one is past tense and the second is active in the present tense.

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Lukes-Imeyuns commented 2 years ago

Or "old Palauan" maybe? I do agree with the regional explanation. Just like "metengel" and "tmengel" "metei" etc.

I asked an Aunt who was part of the original Bible translation and she confirmed it is the same as "olutii."

I, myself, have not heard this variation before. It is in the recent bible translation so I guess it is more common than I thought.

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For the same word as well, some enunciate it with double l and some don’t.

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Good points, Ulang.

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