Loiel

[johnbent]

Loiel created by jimgeselbracht@yahoo.com on 2021-04-19 12:20:23

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jimgeselbracht@yahoo.com replied,

In the song "Lengelem re Ngak e Honey," is the line "Sel be moilil er a Rendezvous / ke ko er ousimang lobengkterir / tirkel loiel u-drive el kal / belduut lekebil."  I asked Yoichi Rengiil about the word "loiel" in the phrase "tirkel loiel u-drive" and he explained that "loiel" is similar (but opposite) to "oketa" [each one, individually].  Loiel modifies tirkel to specify them "collectively as a group."  Yoichi said "loiel is specifically speaking about a certain group of people.  It only emphasizes 'tirkel.'  Because you are talking about specifically the “u-drive,” those promiscuous … in this case u-drive is referring to those promiscuous lekebil." Does this make sense?  Is this a word not in tekinged or is it spelled differently (which is why I don't find it)?

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mngiruchelbad@gmail.com replied,

I was told that it was old version of ‘oketa el udrive...’ they just rolled it into ‘loikel’...anyone else?

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belausim@gmail.com replied,

bunch of u-drive,

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jlukesemiwo@gmail.com replied,

Jim,

I agree with how you explain the word, or what Yoichi said.

I think the word, though, is actually "oiie" but because of the plurality, how it follows "tirke el" (tirkel) it becomes "loiiel" when we say it, as in many other words in similar sentences. It's what happens to words that starts with a vowel and how when we say them, they end up sounding like they start with an "l" instead. Ex: "oketa" becomes "loketa." (Tirkel loketa - Tirke el oketa) Or "oldiu" becomes "loldiu" (Tirkel loldiu - Tirke el oldiu)

I would add also that it does not only emphasize "tirkel" but that it also emphasizes the adjective (u-drive) used to describe the group, collective as you said, that they're mostly _____. For example, OEK members complain about some issue. Someone might say "Te oiiel (Pronounced Toiiel) chad ra Olbiil me loruul a llach e lak loumondai." Using Simeon's example, this would be "They're a bunch of lawmakers so they should pass laws instead of complaining."

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jimgeselbracht@yahoo.com replied,

Fantastic explanation.  Thank you.

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This seems to be a duplicate of #281