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LMUUTURIUL #394

Open ChrisPerrette opened 1 year ago

ChrisPerrette commented 1 year ago

I came across the word kluuturiul while looking through a Palauan hymnal (it says, "Ngdiak kluuturiul."). I looked up the word lmuuturiul, and though it is not found in the defined words, it appears once in a Bible verse.

...e ngdi lsekum ng ngar ngii er tir a lmuuturiul e ng kmal mo chetik ngii. (Hebru 10:38)

I understand that it means something like "turn back." Has anyone heard of this word, or does anyone think that this is a case of hidden grammatical words? Is this worth an entry?

johnbent commented 1 year ago

It's just LMUUT and URIUL smushed together, no?

Gnalu commented 1 year ago

Yep smushed together. Ak luut uriul.

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It's just LMUUT and URIUL smushed together, no?

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ChrisPerrette commented 1 year ago

So is this a proper Palauan way of saying this? Or is there a missing word like el or er?

Gnalu commented 1 year ago

Me ak luut uriul. Ma kluuturiul.

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ChrisPerrette commented 1 year ago

I have a theory that perhaps lmuuturiul is a contraction of the phrase lmuut er a uriul. Here is my logic:

  1. Since relative locational nouns like bab, eou, medal, and uriul are often pronounced and written without an a (e.g., morbab, ngar medal, etc.), the phrase lmuut er a uriul might have become lmuut er uriul.
  2. Since the words like el and er are often obscured by l and r sounds (e.g., klengit el reng > klengiterreng), perhaps the er from lmuut er uriul became obscured by the ur part of uriul, shortening the phrase to lmuut uriul.
  3. Since no grammatical words like el or er seem to be between lmuut and uriul in this phrase, perhaps Palauans writing the phrase thought it was a single word, giving lmuuturiul and its various forms.

If this is the case, then either there is no need for a new entry, or it might be good to put it as part of the lmuut word group.