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Missing: NGANGET #452

Open johnbent opened 9 months ago

johnbent commented 9 months ago

Please see https://www.facebook.com/groups/727155647367856/permalink/6643634939053201/?mibextid=W9rl1R.

Also, NGANGET does appear in many of the Klechibelau definitions:

mysql> select pdef from all_words3 where pdef rlike 'nganget';
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| pdef                                                                                                                                                                                                   |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| ngmanget a mocha er a uriul; nganget, ngmanget er a klaidesachel; ngongetang, ngengetel.                                                                                                               |
| olenganget a merael el mo uriul; ngmanget er a rurt; ongengetii, nganget, ngengetel; nguu el mo er a eou.                                                                                              |
| ongengetii a olenganget er ngii.                                                                                                                                                                       |
| onganget a olenganget; mei er eou; mo er a uriul; onganget a cheral a beras; ongengetii er a deruchall, ongengetel.                                                                                    |
| ulenganget a mla ngmanget; ngar a uriul; ulenganget er a rurt; ngengetel.                                                                                                                              |
| ulenganget a mla ngmanget; ngar a uriul; ulenganget er a rurt; ngengetel.                                                                                                                              |
| ongengetall a kirel el mo er eou; mo er a uriul; monganget, mesaik a ongengetall a ududel el mo rredemelel a urrereel; ongengetel.                                                                     |
| kaiuenganget a didu el sorir el olenganget er a tang; orrebet er a rechad, ongengetii, ongengetel.                                                                                                     |
| ongengedii a olenganged er ngii; rullii el mo soal; ngmanged, ungil el dil a mla ongengedii a sechelik, ongengedel; ongengedii a olenganget el mei er eou, ongengedii er a buuch, ngmanged, ngengedel. |
| ongengetel a onganget er ngii; olenganget.                                                                                                                                                             |
| torech a nganget er a ilteet; meteet mo bechiil er a olbetingel el beluu.                                                                                                                              |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
11 rows in set (0.37 sec)

It seems like it clearly should go into either of these two:

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or

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Is it different from ONGANGET? If so, how? What part of speech is it? That's a hard one. We probably need @smith-371 for that one.

Lukes-Imeyuns commented 9 months ago

It's already listed in Tekinged - monganget. In the FB post, author wrote it as "mo nganget" but it's monganget - to lower, in amount, or an object's position. In the post she's asking: can the pgst tax percentage be lowered?

And it also refers to when it has been done already. If the congressmen come to their senses and lower it from 10% to 5% then we'll say "Ng mla monganget a pgst"

We see the same in many other words:

Moiuiid, oleiuiid, uleiuiid, mloiuiid Motamet, oltamet, uleltamet,mlotamet Modechelakl, oldechelakl, uldechelakl, mlodechelakl

And more...

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On Thu, Sep 21, 2023, 2:50 AM John Bent @.***> wrote:

Please see https://www.facebook.com/groups/727155647367856/permalink/6643634939053201/?mibextid=W9rl1R .

Also, NGANGET does appear in many of the Klechibelau definitions:

mysql> select pdef from all_words3 where pdef rlike 'nganget'; +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | pdef | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | ngmanget a mocha er a uriul; nganget, ngmanget er a klaidesachel; ngongetang, ngengetel. | | olenganget a merael el mo uriul; ngmanget er a rurt; ongengetii, nganget, ngengetel; nguu el mo er a eou. | | ongengetii a olenganget er ngii. | | onganget a olenganget; mei er eou; mo er a uriul; onganget a cheral a beras; ongengetii er a deruchall, ongengetel. | | ulenganget a mla ngmanget; ngar a uriul; ulenganget er a rurt; ngengetel. | | ulenganget a mla ngmanget; ngar a uriul; ulenganget er a rurt; ngengetel. | | ongengetall a kirel el mo er eou; mo er a uriul; monganget, mesaik a ongengetall a ududel el mo rredemelel a urrereel; ongengetel. | | kaiuenganget a didu el sorir el olenganget er a tang; orrebet er a rechad, ongengetii, ongengetel. | | ongengedii a olenganged er ngii; rullii el mo soal; ngmanged, ungil el dil a mla ongengedii a sechelik, ongengedel; ongengedii a olenganget el mei er eou, ongengedii er a buuch, ngmanged, ngengedel. | | ongengetel a onganget er ngii; olenganget. | | torech a nganget er a ilteet; meteet mo bechiil er a olbetingel el beluu. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 11 rows in set (0.37 sec)

It seems like it clearly should go into either of these two: [image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/2047294/269552005-22c94807-f900-4513-be2a-39b891df68a1.png or [image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/2047294/269552040-69031173-a0c1-494d-90cd-4d71f1d2be79.png

Is it different from ONGANGET? If so, how? What part of speech is it? That's a hard one. We probably need @smith-371 https://github.com/smith-371 for that one.

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smith-371 commented 8 months ago

we need more example phrases with NGANGET and NGENGETEL or even NGENGETEM

Gnalu commented 8 months ago

Tia el "NGENGETEL' a Ulang er a RURT meng telkib el checherd a rengul era rechad. Ulang's loss in the race, she's a bit unfriendly. (poor sportsmanship-fact. ;)

A Ulang a mlo NGANGET er a RURT er a ideliseb e dirk kmal seselk a rengul er a rechad. Ulang's loss of the race two days ago, she is still frustrated with everyone. :D

Ulang, eia a "NGENGETEM' er a RURT dimlak omad, me merko mrelli a rengum mesel kuk mei el rurt, elikeiang. Ulang, 'your loss in the race, you didn't die, get over it until next race, jeez!!! :D

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we need more example phrases with NGANGET and NGENGETEL or even NGENGETEM

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