Secret chat

[vahid9]

I would be wonderful to create and send secret chats on telegram desktop.

[franzalex]

You're not the only one who would like to see this feature. As at the time I was posting this reply, there were 15 open issues asking for this.

Unfortunately though the developer does not intend to implement this in the near future.

[Choochmeque]

Cutegram has this feature ) So you can use it ) BTW, it also has Telegram theme ;)

Come to dark side =)

[Aokromes]

Cutegram crashes a lot XD i tried to use it to avoid images preview but crashed every few minutes.

[Choochmeque]

@Aokromes, thanx for information. We will do our best to reduce crashing.

[pwseo]

It seems like the best shot at this would be to fork tdesktop and implement secret-chats there. The main developer doesn't seem to care for Telegram's ability to "Encrypt" and "Destroy" messages (taken from their main website, under the "What can you do with Telegram?" header). Sadly, I'm not a good enough programmer to do this (I can only hope this inspires someone).

The excuse given in other issues (which were closed) makes no sense; first, if one uses Telegram in both a mobile phone and a tablet (just an example) there will already be different secret chats in different devices and second, if one thinks people might get confused by seeing different secret chats in different devices, one would solve that problem by educating people on the reasons for such a behaviour, not by removing such a vital feature from some clients.

Until then, I guess I'll stick with cutegram, which, despite its flaws, seems to better reflect the whole concept of Telegram than Telegram's own official client.

[DerRidda]

I hope closing all these other issues means that this feature is being implemented.

[ZFake]

Telegram's most emphasized feature is security, it even could be said that it's main guideline of it's philosophy. So what is exactly TD's deal then — is it to create an inherently insecure implementation of Telegram?

[ntrlshrp]

Adding +1. My first and unqualified enhancement preference for Telegram Desktop (Ubuntu) is Secret Chats. Whether or not these are (1) device specific secret chats, (2) potentially group secret chats, or (3) potentially confusing, is of secondary importance. Thanks for all hard work!

[rene-s]

+1 ... Please start a bounty program if there are not enough funds to develop this. I like Telegram and I would like it even more if there were Secret Chats in the desktop clients. Regards

[topkecleon]

There is no justification for leaving out one of the most important features of Telegram of an official Telegram client. +1

[Tiim]

:+1:

[MACSOMIC]

to be honest this is one of the featuers thst brought me to telegram thanks for the hard work guys!

[lkhrs]

We need to keep the Telegram apps all on the same page in regards to features. There's no excuse really for having a fragmented feature set here.

[AAljmiai]

Well, I think this is vital feature that spouses to be in all platforms especially on Telegram desktop

[leshow]

Without e2e encryption you guys are just an instant messenger, there's a ton of those already in existence. I installed the client for the sole reason that your advertising led me to believe there was e2e encryption, and there isn't. I won't use your service until that changes.

[telegramdesktop]

@leshow Well, for me personally neither one of "tons of those" is good enough compared to Telegram (that was the reason I've started this desktop client app in the first place).

Uniting cloud sync for messages and attachment across all mobile, tablet and desktop devices, very fast and reliable mobile apps, file sharing up to 1.5GB (for a single file), group conversations for up to 200 members, message history search (from the cloud — for all ever sent messages right after sign in on any device). All those features together are not in any other (known to me, maybe) "just instant messenger". Your right not to use it, of course.

[leshow]

@telegramdesktop your main page suggests you can have "private conversations". Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the backend not open sourced, and e2e encryption not implemented, there is no way to verify that "private conversations" really are private? And while I can see you have a bounty for security flaws. Not being able to see the source means we're just sort of taking your word for it that things really are secure.

[fbis251]

How complicated would a port from the (Java based) Android app be?

[Aokromes]

It's faster to port the feature from https://github.com/Aseman-Land/Cutegram

[Choochmeque]

@Aokromes, +100!

[aphirst]

Hang on, so the justification for not having the secret chats in the desktop client is that they were designed for mobile connections and processing hardware? Doesn't this mean that they would work even better in a desktop client? And regarding the syncing functionality, that already happens now with the mobile clients - so unless there's something I'm egregiously overlooking, the desktop client is currently simply strictly inferior ?

[bladeSk]

@telegramdesktop While it's true that Telegram is probably better than any other IM app out there, encrypted and self-destructing messages are one of the key "selling" points, at least according to the official website. So however you justify it, omitting secret chats means going against that philosophy. +1 for me as well.

[brawaru]

@Brawl345, sorry, but...

[Brawl345]

@DaFri-Nochiterov No, I want to get e-mails on this issue, not on things like "+1"... Your picture is total bullshit

[Choochmeque]

[fbis251]

@Brawl345 Unless the developer has a better way to see support for a feature +1's and "me too" replies are the best way to get visibility on this issue.

[gloeglm]

We should really make this chat secret... Am 06.11.2015 22:37 schrieb "Fernando Barillas" notifications@github.com:

@Brawl345 https://github.com/Brawl345 Unless the developer has a better way to see support for a feature +1's and "me too" replies are the best way to get visibility on this issue.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/871#issuecomment-154549094 .

[ghost]

Telegram, you had one job: bring secret chats to people. Desktop client, dont give us some random excuses. Are you going to let us have secret chats on desktop or not? If not, we are going to leave telegram. Because I can use other IM without taking the pain to convert the others to use it.

[ribeirobreno]

This is the only feature i miss right now and the only issue i've had with telegram so far. A status update and higher priority on this one would be nice. :+1:

[Madh93]

Is the only BIG feature that isn't yet :+1:

[JacobCZ]

+1 Telegram's most advertised feature is it being secret. Many people use it on desktop. So tell me, why the hell does the desktop version not have the secret chat option? It should really be implemented ASAP

[brawaru]

@rorycornell, secret chats not works on any OS

[0cjs]

Note that for a lot of us there's a major difference in usability between the desktop and the mobile versions: on the desktop I can type my usual 100+ WPM on a proper keyboard; on my Android phone and tablets I'm significantly slower using the on-screen keyboard. Thus, being able to do secure chats on the desktop client would be a big win for me.

Regarding confusion about a secret chat being on only a single device, that's common to other chat applications as well. For example, Line, which has a significantly more naive user base, manages to deal with the same restriction for its end-to-end encryption feature, which they call "Letter Sealing".

[codecat]

With the latest update, to the smartphone apps regarding secret chats, what's the status on the desktop app? Will it follow soon?

[telegramdesktop]

@AngeloG Not soon, sorry.

[Brawl345]

Oh my god, just quit spamming on this issue >_< inb4 someone suggest "just unsubscribe" - no

[fbis251]

[diazbastian]

My two cents: (+1)

My reasons for needing secret chats in the desktop version are not related to that is the most promoted feature of the service or just because it's cool.

Telegram service is very good and I use it a lot at work, is so good that my colleagues and my company decided to use internally. The cloud-based chats are sufficient in most cases. The secret chats are widely used to transfer confidential information or talk to strategic customers.

It would be very convenient and practical not depend on the smartphone / tablet for these cases. Directly use the PC of the company and keep the secret chats that place would greatly improve the user experience.

Secret Chats are a great improvement in security and not all companies have one smarphone for work. Whether for low battery, not having the smartphone available or not to use it for other reasons, to start secret chats TDesktop is very necessary. Telegram despite being a mobile service use on the desktop is a unique and highly desirable feature.

Cheers

Note: It seems that developers webogram also try to implement this feature, but there are problems that are still unresolved.

[JacobCZ]

@diazbastian +1

[benbenolson]

This is not just an enhancement; it is a modification that is entirely necessary to be able to fully use the Telegram service. The chatting service without encrypted chat is simply insufficient, and I consider this an incomplete client without the feature, despite the overall stability and polish that is clearly in the design of it.

[JacobCZ]

@benbenolson I could not agree more...

[NKjoep]

@benbenolson yep

[ksmirenko]

@telegramdesktop I understand you are not planning to add secret chats to Telegram Desktop. But will you accept a PR? I will gladly try to resolve this issue.

[JacobCZ]

@ksmirenko @telegramdesktop +1 I would be more than happy to help myself...

[val108]

Dear Developers,

your app is used not only by glam girls with iphones. You deprive us of the opportunity to make contacts safe. Delete messages one by one each time? Are you kidding?

ADD SECRET CHATS FOR DESKTOP.

[matthiasbeyer]

Things won't change. We have to move on. Lets go to some free and completely open source product.

[Choochmeque]

@matthiasbeyer, @smarinov, guys you can help in Cutegram's development

[brawaru]

@smarinov Android emulator with Telegram App! YES! WE DON'T SEARCH EASY WAYS! :smiling_imp:

[matthiasbeyer]

@Sollex-21412 Nope. Telegram itself (server components) remain unfree, so why should I care about telegram? They had their chance. They fucked it up. Time to move on!

[brawaru]

@Sollex-21412, sorry, but Cutegram at current state is shit.

• No channels support
• No keyboard of bots
• No supergroups support
• No predictions for usernames, bot commands
• No info about links (replaced with screen of page, which (as I think) done using your PC (not Telegram servers))
• Ugly design
• Biggest size
• A lot of bugs

Are anybody wants to use this? Me not.