[Suggestion] replace "<^v>" with "←↑↓→"

[wojtekpolska]

Since these arrows behave like normal characters (they are ASCII not emojis/emoticons) they will work on even the oldest systems

I personally think the look better, because they are all equal shape, while current ones are greater/lesser than signs, caret and a letter V

I even checked and they were available in the very 1st version of Unicode ( https://www.unicode.org/Public/reconstructed/1.0.0/UnicodeData.txt ) so they should be displayed properly even by the oldest browsers in existence :)

I got inspired by this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Keyboard

[tenox7]

will they render in Mosaic 0.6B ?

[wojtekpolska]

@tenox7 Im confident that they will

i couldn't test for myself but i dont really see a way it wouldn't

btw. i found suprisingly little information about this browser so now im curious about it (im young but very interested in old systems and programs)

but really i think these arrows will render in any browser there is.

what did mosaic even originally run on because i didnt find that, and neither a download link (only to newer version)

[tenox7]

I'm actually pretty sure they won't work. I don't think old browsers supported Unicode in any shape or form. Mosaic ran on most Unix of the era, SunOS, HP-UX, IRIX, OSF/1, SCO, as well as Windows and Mac OS.

You can find some sources here: http://tenox.pdp-11.ru/_applications/browsers/NCSA%20Mosaic%20Unix/ although I see that I'm lacking older versions. I will try to fix that.

[wojtekpolska]

I think these arrows were introduced even before unicode but im not certain about that

i guess only way is to try out. maybe you can throw that in next time you will test some changes there

These arrows were really introduced long long ago so maybe they'll be supported

I can myself check if IE.5.01 supports them if that helps

[wojtekpolska]

@tenox7 turns out you were right. Using waybackmachine i managed to load old version of wikipedia page with this stuff

I was so wrong :/ well at least i know now

[tenox7]

I did try > < in the past even that didn't work.

BTW you can find Mosaic archives here: https://ftp.icm.edu.pl/packages/Mosaic/

[tenox7]

I'm also thinking about disabling arrows in the default UI since they have very little use

[wojtekpolska]

like the browsers just displayed &gt as text?

[wojtekpolska]

also i think its good to keep them, since they don't cause problems and imo its work keeping them even for these 3 peoples who will use them

PS. I like these kinds of conversation - even tho my idea was bad, i found out some interesting stuff that i had no idea about before :)