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[Package]: GNU IceCat #17749

Closed ghost closed 7 months ago

ghost commented 1 year ago

Why is it worth to add this package?

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ChiefMikeK commented 1 year ago

This is based on firefox 67 of june-2019

IIUC not still being maintained.

TomJo2000 commented 1 year ago

As I understand it, GNU IceCat (formerly known as GNU IceWeasel), is a relic of a now resolved trademark quirk regarding the "Mozilla Firefox" wordmark, stemming from Debian's use of the wordmark in official materials.

I don't recall the exact details, but in effect it ended with Mozilla's lawyers suggestion to Debian's lawyers to change the name if they want to use it in official "marketing materials" for the Distro.

This issue has since been resolved, and (Debian) IceCat is to be considered abandoned in favor of mainline Firefox. At some point GNU picked up the "fork", though I'm very hazy on the details there.

For more details see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat#Origins_of_the_name

ghost commented 1 year ago

@ChiefMikeK @TomJo2000

ghost commented 1 year ago

@ChiefMikeK

This is based on firefox 67 of june-2019

IIUC not still being maintained.

please provide some kind of proof ;)

ghost commented 1 year ago

@TomJo2000

As I understand it, GNU IceCat (formerly known as GNU IceWeasel), is a relic of a now resolved trademark quirk regarding the "Mozilla Firefox" wordmark, stemming from Debian's use of the wordmark in official materials.

I don't recall the exact details, but in effect it ended with Mozilla's lawyers suggestion to Debian's lawyers to change the name if they want to use it in official "marketing materials" for the Distro.

This issue has since been resolved, and IceCat is to be considered abandoned in favor of mainline Firefox.

thank you for providing valuable information in nut shell ;)

At some point GNU picked up the "fork", though I'm very hazy on the details there.

thanks for your frank admittance

TomJo2000 commented 1 year ago

Yes commits are being made to IceCat. But there has not been any official "stable release" of the project since June 2019. We do not generally package "pre-release" or "*-git" versions of packages.

As for "proof". The only maintainers publishing 102.x releases of GNU IceCat are:

These are also the only current packagers of IceCat. Except for outdated versions available from Chocolatey, PCLinuxOS and SlackBuilds.

ghost commented 1 year ago

@TomJo2000

Yes commits are being made to IceCat.

yes, project is active

But there has not been any official "stable release" of the project since June 2019.

icecat is based on firefox ESR, tor browser releases ESR as stable_ https://blog.torproject.org/new-release-tor-browser-1253/

We

we means termux package creators/uploaders?

do not generally package "pre-release"

i have zero knowledge about how packages are created for termux

or "*-git" versions of packages.

this is standard practice, if i have enough patience & RAM i will prefer to compile package myself instead of installing .deb, .rpm, etc..

As for "proof". The only maintainers publishing 102.x releases of GNU IceCat are:

* The AUR.

* Fedora (Rawhide)

* GNU Guix
  and

* Parabola GNU/Linux-libre

These are also the only current packagers of IceCat. Except for outdated versions available from Chocolatey, PCLinuxOS and SlackBuilds.

thanks for providing info and link

TomJo2000 commented 1 year ago

We

we means termux package creators/uploaders?

We as in, the Termux project and its associated package repositories and infrastructure. (I do not presume or intend to speak for the project as a whole, and I am sorry if that was the impression)

Also it looks like I was wrong on the count of "not packaging *-git versions", we just prefer to package specified versions. Be that stable releases, git tags, or the state of a project as of a specific commit.

In general I tend to use "We" when referring to guidelines set out in the packaging policy or Maintainer Wiki, I apologize for any confusion.

ghost commented 1 year ago

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We

we means termux package creators/uploaders?

We as in, the Termux project and its associated package repositories and infrastructure.

i was simply enquiring and i didnt gone through issues [ open and closed ], otherwise i would never asked about it

Also it looks like I was wrong on the count of "not packaging *-git versions", we just prefer to package specified versions. Be that stable releases or the state of a project as of a specific commit.

In general I tend to use "We" when referring to guidelines set out in the packaging policy or Maintainer Wiki, I apologize for any confusion.

no need, this happens all the time

TomJo2000 commented 1 year ago

It's not up to me. I'm just a (infrequent) contributor to the project, not a maintainer.

TomJo2000 commented 7 months ago

Considering I now am a maintainer, and I just stumbled across this again. And considering we now have official approval to use official Firefox branding for the firefox package. We can safely close this as obsolete/not planned.