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Challenges/Lessons learned of Teachers currently teaching RSE things #4

Open CaptainSifff opened 10 months ago

CaptainSifff commented 10 months ago 
1a: Challenges/Lessons learned of Teachers currently teaching RSE things
1b: Who tries Challenges/Lessoes to incorporate RSE topics in their teaching?
MakisH commented 10 months ago

Some points to get started:

Big picture

Reviews and grading

Infrastructure

Content

Teamwork

To be continued

BeastyBlacksmith commented 10 months ago

What to distribute to students that don't have Linux installed?

  • Instructions for WSL

I did that once in a lecture for biologists and it worked somewhat okay, but it also was a small course.

mhagdorn commented 10 months ago

There is quite an overlap with the-teachingRSE-project/general#3. The big picture stuff should be covered by that issue.

MakisH commented 10 months ago

There is quite an overlap with the-teachingRSE-project/general#3. The big picture stuff should be covered by that issue.

I see the overlap, but I think we can also take different viewpoints here. I mainly meant it as "what has the best learning/investment ratio for me as a teacher". But definitely, I will move that there as well.

ljgarcia commented 9 months ago

I would also ask about who is the audience. Are RSE skills taught to SE who want to move to RSE or to non-SE (or CS or similar) who have done some development and want to switch to RSE?

MakisH commented 7 months ago

Summary from the world-café discussion in deRSE24

@CaptainSifff should I put this text somewhere else in the repository?

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Participants of the deRSE24 conference in Würzburg discussed current challenges and lessons learned from teaching RSE topics. In this discussion, teaching activities spanned from teaching university courses, to daily mentoring junior professionals. Key challenges that arose revolved around communication and interdisciplinarity.

As RSE students and mentees typically come from various home domains, it is often challenging to estimate the level of previous knowledge, the needed learning outcomes, and the terminology that each audience will be familiar with. In team projects, the teams themselves often consist of members originating from different home domains, which, if the expectations are not managed correctly, can lead to load imbalances and friction. Possible remedies include a) for identifying the level and needs of the audience, make pre-course surveys, and b) for team projects, let teams sel-organize into cross-functional teams that fulfill all expectations, identifying distinct roles and deliverables; let each member take ownership and leadership of their work packages. Finally, a challenge we identified was transfer of knowledge in teams, transitioning from hierarchical mentor-mentee structures to structures revolving around teams where members teach and learn from each other. For this, useful strategies include peer-reviewing of contributions, joint meetings with both senior and junior team members involved, as well as further mingling activities, as presented, for example, in retromat.

CaptainSifff commented 7 months ago

Well, we need to find a place in the papers somewhere... Maybe it would be a good idea, to put it into the appendix for the institutions paper. I'm still struggling with good ideas, of where to connect it to. It would fit as an introduction to the Master's program of the competencies paper. It would fit into the institutions paper with the intent of making the point, that also our teachers should have a broad background. It would fit into the call-to-action with the intent of describing the current state.... So I guess, putting it to a follow-up issue would be a good idea anyway?

jpthiele commented 7 months ago

I think current day challenges and lessons could also be a good entry point into institutionalized education since it's the current state of affairs and not ideal in some to many regards.