Open ruxandra-valcu opened 1 year ago
It would be really cool if there was a way of bulk converting every Romanian route that isn't a bouldering/sport route and has numberCapitalLetter grades to have that grade in the Romanian system btw, but I'll manually do it if need be :)
@ruxandra-valcu can you please find some external references for Romanian alpine routes? Is it two grading systems, one for trad and one for alpine?
A single system, covering everything where we'd use a rope in most of the 20th century (sport climbing only began here in the 90s, after the Revolution...)
A Romanian-language classification can be found at https://eclimb.ro/articole.php?crt=13&n=Clasificarea_traseelor_alpine. If you'd like an English version, the wikipedia page is based on the eclimb article and also adds some context people who aren't Romanian climbers may lack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grade_(climbing)#Romanian , but I'm not sure how much it counts as an external reference if I wrote it :)
It is great that the author is advocating for the system on our site. If it is up on wikipedia it is open to scrutiny which makes it a valued reference for us. Quite possibly we could not find the reference to Romanian system or thought it was the Russian system when we added the other grading systems.
Anyway I am just making sure that the right info is here when we get a chance to implement.
:) author (well, translator and explainer) of the Wiki article, not the system itself, I'm nowhere that old :) The system was inspired by the Russian system (we took their grades, adapted to what could be found inside Romania, since it was nigh-impossible for Communist-era climbers and mountaineers to leave the country - this is also why there are few to non non-Romanian language references since it really was a closed system...) but it really isn't the same - the Russian grade is alpine-only whereas the Romanian one is alpine at the lower levels and then switches to what a modern climber would recognized as trad/mixed trad. It's not a very good grading system, objectively speaking, and it's no longer used for new lines except in the scrambling community, but many routes only have community-established grades in it, and it's less certain information if one climber does a route and says it's 8 UIAA/6A2 PD RS2 rather than having a community-established 5A.
Thanks for the help!
Referencing https://github.com/theCrag/website/issues/3224, which was closed without implementing this.
These go 1A 1B 2A 2B 3A 3B 4A 4B 5A 5B 6A 6B 7A ( 1A-2B are beginner, 3A-4B intermediate, 5 experienced, 6 expert, 7 elite). While they look like the Russian alpine system that inspired them (and I think most routes are currently specified on Russian alpine or whatever the system automatically converts 3A to) they don't map to it at all - no altitude to take into account, far shorter lengths etc.