Hi all! In the release from June 2023, you fixed issue #4195 (Swedish grades were slightly off in relation to others). However, not all problems are solved: While route grades are mapped correctly, some ascents are both represented incorrectly in grade pyramids and when using route filters; however, at the same time, other ascents are mapped correctly.
To illustrate the problems, let me guide you through some issues I discovered on my profile on theCrag:
Problem 1: Grade pyramids show ascents under wrong grade
The grade pyramid for my Trad climbs shows three ascents for French 7b+. When clicking on that bar, all three notable ascents are SWE 8-. But even within theCrag's internal mapping, a SWE 8- is not a FR 7b+ but a FR 7a+/7b (see the "Notable Ascents" section, where two of these ascents are shown). Thus, all three ascents should be represented by the 7b-bar.
The same goes for other historical ascents: The SWE 7+ represented by the 7a+ bar is actually a 7a etc.
The "Notable Ascents" section shows two of the ascents with the correct corresponding French grade:
Problem 2: When filtering ascents, some ascents are being mapped correctly while others are being mapped wrong.
When I filter my trad ascents using the French grading system, and select only ascents that are 7a (using the ascent filter), the query returns some routes that are graded as SWE 7 (which actually is 6c+). But the query doesn't return all my ascents with grade SWE 7. It seems to me that for some routes, a SWE 7 corresponds with a 6c+ (which is correct) while for others, the same grade corresponds with a 7a.
At first, I thought the issue could be explained by the date of the ascent (when before the system release, it's still mapped to 7a, after the system release, it's 6c+). But that's not the case: There is at least one ascent of a SWE 7 that happened before June 2023 (and got logged at that time) but it's mapped as a FR 6c+. And filtering for UIAA doesn't help, either: Querying for UIAA 8- returns exactly the same routes as 6c+ does (plus a few extra, because some SWE 7- are then also considered 6c+).
In fact, even when filtering my ascents using the Swedish grading system in the ascent filter and only selecting 7s, I get some routes with grade 7- in there. And vice versa, if I use both ascent and route filters and narrow both those to only a Swedish 7, I don't get all ascents with a SWE 7 (but some with SWE 7-).
Thus, it seems to me that the grading conversion is inconsistent. Any route with the grade of SWE 7 should always be mapped to the same grade(s) (and preferably, the correct one).
Hi all! In the release from June 2023, you fixed issue #4195 (Swedish grades were slightly off in relation to others). However, not all problems are solved: While route grades are mapped correctly, some ascents are both represented incorrectly in grade pyramids and when using route filters; however, at the same time, other ascents are mapped correctly.
To illustrate the problems, let me guide you through some issues I discovered on my profile on theCrag:
Problem 1: Grade pyramids show ascents under wrong grade
The grade pyramid for my Trad climbs shows three ascents for French 7b+. When clicking on that bar, all three notable ascents are
SWE 8-. But even within theCrag's internal mapping, aSWE 8-is not aFR 7b+but aFR 7a+/7b(see the "Notable Ascents" section, where two of these ascents are shown). Thus, all three ascents should be represented by the 7b-bar.The same goes for other historical ascents: The
SWE 7+represented by the 7a+ bar is actually a 7a etc.The "Notable Ascents" section shows two of the ascents with the correct corresponding French grade:
Problem 2: When filtering ascents, some ascents are being mapped correctly while others are being mapped wrong.
When I filter my trad ascents using the French grading system, and select only ascents that are 7a (using the ascent filter), the query returns some routes that are graded as
SWE 7(which actually is 6c+). But the query doesn't return all my ascents with gradeSWE 7. It seems to me that for some routes, aSWE 7corresponds with a 6c+ (which is correct) while for others, the same grade corresponds with a 7a.At first, I thought the issue could be explained by the date of the ascent (when before the system release, it's still mapped to 7a, after the system release, it's 6c+). But that's not the case: There is at least one ascent of a
SWE 7that happened before June 2023 (and got logged at that time) but it's mapped as aFR 6c+. And filtering for UIAA doesn't help, either: Querying forUIAA 8-returns exactly the same routes as 6c+ does (plus a few extra, because someSWE 7-are then also considered 6c+).In fact, even when filtering my ascents using the Swedish grading system in the ascent filter and only selecting 7s, I get some routes with grade 7- in there. And vice versa, if I use both ascent and route filters and narrow both those to only a Swedish 7, I don't get all ascents with a
SWE 7(but some withSWE 7-).Thus, it seems to me that the grading conversion is inconsistent. Any route with the grade of
SWE 7should always be mapped to the same grade(s) (and preferably, the correct one).