stellasilbert
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2 years ago See also theglobaljukebox/parlametrics#9
Closed stellasilbert closed 2 years ago
stellasilbert
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2 years ago See also theglobaljukebox/parlametrics#9
stellasilbert
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2 years ago For now, I have implemented the bulleted solutions, and went with option 1 regarding songs 3979 and 3980-- assigned them to society 12365 (Sundanese). Always possible to split them off later if needed.
annalwood
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2 years ago Stella, Would you be able to list the Javanese songs with the society names you propose plus our current metadata and links to audio? We can then ask Philip Yampolsky to better identify them.
One problem is that there is no record of Ted Schwartz recordings in Java. This attribution was transferred from Alan's and Jaap kunst's Columbia World Lib album, Indonesia. I think these may have been recorded by Kunst. I am sorry you had to spend so much time on this
Those recordings in Jakarta should be listed as maybe urban Jakarta. Otherwise your solutions (first bullet) make sense, given the languages. There should be note on Baduy and Banten cultures in the metadata.
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:04 AM stellasilbert @.***> wrote:
Society 17557, currently named South Jakarta, includes songs from many different regions of Java. I suggest the following:
- Rename society 17557 "Javanese", and keep songs 3354, 3352, 3353, 2765, 1, 877, 3981 assigned to it. Make society lat-lon average of song lat lons (-7.21, 109.89). Match to xd751, language java1254. My reasoning for broadening the name of the society rather than splitting into different regions of Java is in order to facilitate match with xd751/Ib2 (Javanese).
- Rename society 12365 "Sundanese" and reassign songs 1824, 3356, 3355, 3358, 1823, 1562, 3357 to it. No D-PLACE match. Language sund1252. Change song location name to West Java, W C Indonesia for all songs (currently the lat-lon is the same for all songs except 3357 but the name varies). Change song lat-long for 3357 to -7.09, 107.66 to match the others with same location. Make society lat-lon -7.09, 107.66 as well.
Question for @kirbykat https://github.com/kirbykat and @annalwood https://github.com/annalwood - what to do about songs 3979 and 3980? 3979 https://www.loc.gov/resource/afc2004004.ms431706/?st=slideshow#slide-8 is from Banten, likely performed by Bantenese people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantenese_people (subgroup of Sundanese). 3980 https://www.loc.gov/resource/afc2004004.ms431706/?st=slideshow#slide-10 lists location as "Baduy, West Java," however Baduy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baduy_people seems not to be a location but is actually a subgroup of Bantenese people, who are themselves a subgroup of Sundanese people. Both songs are from the same source and I cannot find tape notes for it, so this is all the info I have. Options are:
- Assign both songs to society 12365. Reasoning: Bantenese and Baduy are both of Sundanese ethnicity.
- Create new "Bantenese" society and assign both songs to it. Reasoning: To differentiate Bantenese from West Java Sundanese.
- Create two new societies: Bantenese (assign song 3979, language bant1285) and Baduy (assign song 3980, language badu1237). Reasoning: To differentiate Baduy as a distinctive group with their own dialect.
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2 years ago Here is a list of the songs, copied from the metadata sheet. Let me know if you need this in a separate doc or email. You can also just use the existing metadata spreadsheet and look up these society numbers.
I added the note you suggested for the Banten and Baduy songs, and listed the two songs from Jakarta as Urban Jakarta.
annalwood
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2 years ago It would be better on separate spreadsheet formatted so easy to read
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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:47 AM stellasilbert @.***> wrote:
Here is a list of the songs, copied from the metadata sheet. Let me know if you need this in a separate doc or email. You can also just use the existing metadata spreadsheet and look up these society numbers.
I added the note you suggested for the Banten and Baduy songs, and listed the two songs from Jakarta as Urban Jakarta.
song_id Local_latitude Local_longitude Homeland_latitude Homeland_longitude Region Division Subregion Area Preferred_name Society_location society_id Audio_notes Duration Audio_file archivalsource_id Song Genre Song_notes Performers Instruments Vocalist_gender Lyrics Living_metadata Recorded_by Year Publisher Publcation_collection Repository Classification_notes Metadata_notes Sources Source_tag fileexists? 3351 -7.09 107.66 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Sundanese West Java, W C Indonesia 12365 PENDING 3A59.A3 Pantum Epic Male solo, zither, two clappers Male Voice; Zither; Clappers Men Bernard Ijzerdraat 1960 Chant du Monde Chants Et Danses D'Indonésie. Le Chant du Monde LDY-4179. @CDM1960ChantsEtDansesD'Indonesie No
1562 -7.09 107.66 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Sundanese West Java, W C Indonesia 12365 0:03:58 T5424R01 T1342.5 Sundanese Song 1 Atmospheric saron and kulintang tone clouds, an easy paced recital with bowed rebab, flurries of sound Female solo, male solo, rebab, bowed lute, saron, metalophone, kulintang, gong row, drums, gongs Female Voice; Male Voice; Rebab, Bowed Lute; Saron, Metalophone; Kulintang, Gong Row; Drums; Gongs Mixed adults Radio Republik Indonesia 1963 Radio Republik Indonesia Robert Garfias collection, Sunda. Tape VIII.5. Radio Republik Indonesia, Jakarta, Indonesia; Dept. Of Ethnomusicology, University of California, Irvine; Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Double coded; see coding sheet 1825 Dubs made by Mantle Hood from RRI (Radio Republik Indonesia) while he was in Indonesia @GC1963RRIDubs Yes 1823 -7.09 107.66 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Sundanese West Java, W C Indonesia 12365 Speed fluctuations on original, which make this piece unusable; use WS24.01, T5424R01, instead 0:01:55 T5424R02 T1342.6 Sundanese Song 3 Atmospheric saron and kulintang tone clouds, a slightly hurried recital with bowed rebab, flurries of sound Female and male voices, rebab, bowed lute, saron, metalophone, kulintang, gong row, drums, gongs Female Voices; Male Voices; Rebab, Bowed Lute; Saron, Metalophone; Kulintang, Gong Row; Drums; Gongs Mixed adults Radio Republik Indonesia 1963 Radio Republik Indonesia Robert Garfias collection Radio Republik Indonesia, Jakarta, Indonesia; Dept. Of Ethnomusicology, University of California, Irvine; Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Dubs made by Mantle Hood from RRI (Radio Republik Indonesia) while he was in Indonesia @GC1963RRIDubs Yes 1824 -7.09 107.66 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Sundanese West Java, W C Indonesia 12365 0:03:00 T5424R59 T1498.2 Javanese Song 2 Gamelan Female solo, gamelan, flute, zither Female Voice; Gamelan; Flute; Zither Women Previously Unpublished Bali II and Java I. Folkways Archives. Tape 1. 2. Ralph Rinzler Folklife Archives and Collections, Smithsonian Center for Folklife and Cultural Heritage. http://www.folklife.si.edu/archive; Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress @RRFACNDBaliIIJavaI Yes 3980 -7.09 107.66 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Sundanese Baduy, West Java, W C Indonesia 12365 0:00:59 T5424R65 T3083.4b Javanese Song 4 Antiphonal song with zither Male leader, mixed chorus, zither Male Voice; Mixed Voices; Zither Mixed adults Bernard Ijzerdraat (B. Suryabrata) 1955-60 Indravox Bernard Ijzerdraat Recordiings in Java Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Likely performed by Baduy people, a Bantenese people, who are a subgroup of Sundanese. Classified as Sundanese. -SS @Indravox1955-60JavaneseSong4 Yes 3358 -7.09 107.66 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Sundanese West Java, W C Indonesia 12365 0:03:16 T5424R68 T1356.2D7 Senggot Adu Manis Gamelan Ketjapi Orchestra Rukun Wargi, gamelan, Nji Iti Narem, rebab Gamelan; Rebab Jaap Kunst 1952 Previously Unpublished Japp Kunst Collections, Ethnomusicology Archives, University of Amsterdam Ethnomusicology Archives, University of Amsterdam; Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Copies provided by Ethnomusicology Archive, Univeristy of Amsterdam, Linnaeusstraat 2a, Amsterdam, Archive # C/49. Copyright @JKC1952SenggotAduManis Yes
3355 -7.09 107.66 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Sundanese West Java, W C Indonesia 12365 0:03:18 T5424R70 T1356.2D3 Javanese Song 1 Gamelan Male solo, gamelan, gambus Male Voice; Gamelan; Gambus Men Jaap Kunst 1952 Previously Unpublished Japp Kunst Collections, Ethnomusicology Archives, University of Amsterdam Ethnomusicology Archives, University of Amsterdam; Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Copies provided by Ethnomusicology Archive, Univeristy of Amsterdam, Linnaeusstraat 2a, Amsterdam, Archive # E/25. Copyright @JKC1952JavaneseSong1 Yes
3356 -7.09 107.66 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Sundanese West Java, W C Indonesia 12365 0:01:21 T5425R01m T1356.2D1 Sundanese Song 4 Gamelan Female solo, gamelan Female Voice; Gamelan Women Jaap Kunst 1952 Previously Unpublished Japp Kunst Collections, Ethnomusicology Archives, University of Amsterdam Ethnomusicology Archives, University of Amsterdam; Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Copies provided by Ethnomusicology Archive, Univeristy of Amsterdam, Linnaeusstraat 2a, Amsterdam, Archive # E/25. Copyright @JKC1952SundaneseSong4 Yes 3979 -6.4 106.06 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Sundanese Banten, Java, W C Indonesia 12365 0:02:18 T5424R64 T3083.3 Wawayangan Gamelan Male solo, gamelan Male Voice; Gamelan Men Bernard Ijzerdraat (B. Suryabrata) 1955-60 Indravox Bernard Ijzerdraat Recordiings in Java Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Likely performed by Bantenese people, a subgroup of Sundanese. Classified as Sundanese. -SS @Indravox1955-60Wawayangan Yes 3357 -7.09 107.66 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Sundanese West Java, W C Indonesia 12365 0:01:14 T5424R67 T1356.1B2 Lutung Kasarung Epic Song; Pantun Pantun, sung epic, part of a recitation of a Sundanese pantun Male solo Male Voice Men Bernard Ijzerdraat 1955-60 Radio Republik Indonesia Bernard Ijzerdraat Recordings, Ethnomusicology Archives, University of Amsterdam, AZ-25. Ethnomusicology Archives, University of Amsterdam; Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Copies provided by Ethnomusicology Archive, Univeristy of Amsterdam, Linnaeusstraat 2a, Amsterdam. Copyright @RRI1955-60IjzerdraatRecordings Yes 3354 -7.64 112.6 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Javanese Trawas, Mojokerto, East Java, Indonesia 17557 0:01:19 T5424R69 T1356.2D10,2 Nini Towong Children's Song; Game Song; Spirit Song Children's game song, a doll, house, and garden spirit Jaap Kunst 1952 Previously Unpublished Japp Kunst Collections, Ethnomusicology Archives, University of Amsterdam Ethnomusicology Archives, University of Amsterdam; Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Copies provided by Ethnomusicology Archive, Univeristy of Amsterdam, Linnaeusstraat 2a, Amsterdam, Archive # E/25. Copyright @JKC1952NiniTowong Yes 2765 -7.61 110.71 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Javanese Java, W C Indonesia 17557 NULL Javanese Song No 3353 -7.61 110.71 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Javanese Java, W C Indonesia 17557 0:03:17 T5423R49 T1513.1 Javanese Song 3 Gamelan Atmospheric gamelan Female solo, mixed chorus, gamelan Female Voice; Mixed Voices; Gamelan Mixed adults Ted Schwartz 1963 Previously Unpublished Ted Schwartz collection Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress @TSC1963JavaneseSong3 Yes 3352 -7.61 110.71 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Javanese Java, W C Indonesia 17557 0:03:07 T5424R61m T1498.7 Javanese Poetry Chant Chant Female solo Female Voice Women Previously Unpublished Bali II and Java I. Folkways Archives. Tape 1. 7. Ralph Rinzler Folklife Archives and Collections, Smithsonian Center for Folklife and Cultural Heritage. http://www.folklife.si.edu/archive; Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress @RRFACNDBaliIIJavaI Yes 1 -7.57 110.82 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Javanese Surakarta, Central Java, W C Indonesia 17557 0:03:28 T5424R43 3A33.30; WFS8.6; WFS8ALT.6 Kembang Mas Gamelan Golden Flower, classical Javanese gamelan, pelog composition Solo female Mardularas (Applying Herself to Harmony), Gamelan Kangjeng Kjahi Mangunsih (The Most Venerable Sir Practising Love) Female Voice; Gamelan Kangjeng Kjahi Mangunsih Women Jaap Kunst 1952 Columbia Records Columbia World Library of Folk and Primitive Music: Volume VII: Indonesia. Columbia Masterworks KL215 Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Jaap Kunst, author of notes @CFPM1955Indonesia Yes 877 -6.2 106.84 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Urban Jakarta Jakarta, Java, W C Indonesia 62584 1 sec dropout at start 0:03:50 T5414R02 T1237.4 Kroncong Persembahaniku Popular Song Indonesian pop song Female solo, Orkes Keroncong Puspa, orchestra Female Voice; Orchestra Women Asia House; Ted Schwartz 1963 Previously Unpublished Asia House Recordings. Tape #1481. T1237.4. Asia House; Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress Sent to Alan Lomax by the Asia House @AHR1963KroncongPersembahaniku Yes 3981 -6.2 106.84 Southeast Asia Island S E Asia Greater Sundas Java Urban Jakarta Jakarta, Java, W C Indonesia 62584 0:03:22 T5424R66 T3084.C3 Surilang Gamelan Pseudo-Latin flavor, ie. Cha-Cha-Cha, and West African rhythmic accents in xylophone, only at one point Female solo, rebab, gamelan Female Voice; Rebab; Gamelan Women Bernard Ijzerdraat (B. Suryabrata) 1955-60 Indravox Bernard Ijzerdraat Recordiings in Java Copy in Alan Lomax Collection, American Folklife Center, Library of Congress @Indravox1955-60Surilang Yes
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Society 17557, currently named South Jakarta, includes songs from many different regions of Java. I suggest the following:
Question for @kirbykat and @annalwood - what to do about songs 3979 and 3980? 3979 is from Banten, likely performed by Bantenese people (subgroup of Sundanese). 3980 lists location as "Baduy, West Java," however Baduy seems not to be a location but is actually a subgroup of Bantenese people, who are themselves a subgroup of Sundanese people. Both songs are from the same source and I cannot find tape notes for it, so this is all the info I have. Options are: 1) Assign both songs to society 12365. Reasoning: Bantenese and Baduy are both of Sundanese ethnicity. 2) Create new "Bantenese" society and assign both songs to it. Reasoning: To differentiate Bantenese from West Java Sundanese. 3) Create two new societies: Bantenese (assign song 3979, language bant1285) and Baduy (assign song 3980, language badu1237). Reasoning: To differentiate Baduy as a distinctive group with their own dialect.