Larceniii
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12 years ago " Say adding the builder metabox to the actual 'edit page/post' page... and maybe even bring in metaboxes for the custom sidebars floating and fixed."
The builder meta box should be able to be added to the actual post/page edit toolbar.
See how wp-bakery does it here... http://codecanyon.net/item/visual-composer-for-wordpress/242431/?ref=mixey Demo: http://demo.wpbakery.com/vc/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http%3A%2F%2Fdemo.wpbakery.com%2Fvc%2Fwp-admin%2F&reauth=1 (user name and pass are both "demo" )
You edit the layout on the actual post edit screen.
I have always imagined that as the framework matured this would be a natural next step for the builder to evolve to.
anointed
themeblvd
I delivered a website to a client today based off of Jump-Start and I had a few observations from the point of view of a somewhat 'newbie' WordPress user.
Background: The client has used WordPress in the past on fairly basic levels. It was a father son team, so age probably 50 and 20ish, not exactly sure, definitely professional adults.
What I observed: I built a system where each main menu link represented a page, and each of those pages used a builder template. Each of those builder templates used both fixed and floating widget areas in combination with page content modules and some builder templates were a little more complex.
Right away it became rather confusing to the client on how/where to edit the content on a page. Like all normal WordPress users his first instinct was to go to the page and edit everything there.
However, because I was using a builder template to add additional content to the page, it became very confusing to him very quickly that some of the content on the page was indeed there to edit, and yet other content was in the builder module and yet further content was in widget areas.
Here is a screenshot showing what I am talking about http://awesomescreenshot.com/03aiwx305
I've just kind of noticed that because you have to edit the content in so many areas, that it is actually a little confusing for the average user to figure out.
In the end, the client was VERY happy with the power that Jump-Start offered him. He loved the fact that he could basically build any page layout he could dream up fairly simply. He was however quite confused and it did take me about 2 hrs on skype screen sharing to really get him comfortable enough to leave him alone with the site for the night.
Suggestions: Well I'm not sure it's really feasible, but if there were any possible way to allow the user to edit everything on one page that would help a lot. Say adding the builder metabox to the actual 'edit page/post' page... and maybe even bring in metaboxes for the custom sidebars floating and fixed.
I don't know... just bouncing ideas and I know you guys know more about this than I do as your used to dealing with customers already using the theme.
I see Jump-Start as a great developers tool for when I don't want to have to write a ton of code, but I could never see my mother trying to use this. Then again, she is probably not your target market.
I hope that maybe this long post will help in the future with something...
I absolutely love Jump-Start and have zero complaints with it. Just after today, I'd like to find a way to make it a little simpler for the new user to understand. I will definitely be making a bunch of really generic how-to vids for my customer so he has a refresher on what we talked about today.