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Release 2021-07-22: US Crop Insurance Indemnities by County 1979-2020 #5

Open theo-armour opened 3 years ago

theo-armour commented 3 years ago

@managingwholes

Release 2021-07-21: US Crop Insurance Indemnities by County 1979-2020

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Looks like we might be moving more in a direction of being actually useful.

But: The bars in the popup seem to have an off by one error. User experience needs looking at: menu, zooming and panning, popup experience and more

Change Log

managingwholes commented 3 years ago

Hi Theo:

Interesting. I can tell our perspectives on usability and simplicity differ.

For me, the sticks clutter the counties, and the 3D effects do not add much. I still think a color palette, the traditional choropleth, is the most effective way to display quantitive information by county.

I like how the indemnity per acre is available in the popup. I also like the selection box for year.

After trying it I don't think this is very usable on mobile, in part because sticks obscure the geography. That's why I suggested a horizontal time scale on the popup, as it fits expectations plus usual screen proportions for non-mobile screens.

You're welcome to give up on me if this is contrary to your instincts or way of working. And you've inspired me to simplify and explain this whole matter of crop insurance subsidies a little better.

regards Peter

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 9:57 PM Theo Armour @.***> wrote:

@managingwholes https://github.com/managingwholes Release 2021-07-21: US Crop Insurance Indemnities by County 1979-2020 https://theo-armour.github.io/maps-2021/sandbox/globe-us-county-indemnity/v-2021-07-22/glc-globe-csv-county-indemnity.html

[image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/547626/126737926-32797d3e-ea9f-4602-9b50-a763bf164039.png

Looks like we might be moving more in a direction of being actually useful.

But: The bars in the popup seem to have an off by one error. User experience needs looking at: menu, zooming and panning, popup experience and more Change Log

  • Width of bar now indicate number of cropland acres
  • Add: color of bar indicates indemnity per acre
  • Start building info popup - very primitive, user experience not good
  • Update menu text

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managingwholes commented 3 years ago

Theo, interchanges with you have set me on a path to do the crop insurance mapping as an Observable notebook. Another learning curve of course, but I like what I'm seeing from Observable, including d3 templates and so on. And one of these notebooks would give good transparency, ability to easily change and fork, etc.

best Peter

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 3:25 PM Peter Donovan @.***> wrote:

Hi Theo:

Interesting. I can tell our perspectives on usability and simplicity differ.

For me, the sticks clutter the counties, and the 3D effects do not add much. I still think a color palette, the traditional choropleth, is the most effective way to display quantitive information by county.

I like how the indemnity per acre is available in the popup. I also like the selection box for year.

After trying it I don't think this is very usable on mobile, in part because sticks obscure the geography. That's why I suggested a horizontal time scale on the popup, as it fits expectations plus usual screen proportions for non-mobile screens.

You're welcome to give up on me if this is contrary to your instincts or way of working. And you've inspired me to simplify and explain this whole matter of crop insurance subsidies a little better.

regards Peter

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 9:57 PM Theo Armour @.***> wrote:

@managingwholes https://github.com/managingwholes Release 2021-07-21: US Crop Insurance Indemnities by County 1979-2020 https://theo-armour.github.io/maps-2021/sandbox/globe-us-county-indemnity/v-2021-07-22/glc-globe-csv-county-indemnity.html

[image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/547626/126737926-32797d3e-ea9f-4602-9b50-a763bf164039.png

Looks like we might be moving more in a direction of being actually useful.

But: The bars in the popup seem to have an off by one error. User experience needs looking at: menu, zooming and panning, popup experience and more Change Log

  • Width of bar now indicate number of cropland acres
  • Add: color of bar indicates indemnity per acre
  • Start building info popup - very primitive, user experience not good
  • Update menu text

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theo-armour commented 3 years ago

@managingwholes

Regarding 3D and clutter, etc. I have started a new discussion item here:

https://github.com/theo-armour/maps-2021/discussions/6

Theo, interchanges with you have set me on a path to do the crop insurance mapping as an Observable notebook.

Yay! I heart Mike Bostock and all his efforts.

For my own efforts, I have looked at building Observables more than once but then get dragged into projects where they don't make enough sense.

But I will be delighted to play and test and comment on your efforts. And hope that you can learn a trick or two from my code.

You're welcome to give up on me if this is contrary to your instincts of way of working. And you've inspired me to simplify and explain this whole matter of crop insurance subsidies a little better.

Haha. No way. You're stuck with me for a while. If I have inspired you I want to view the outcomes.

And - this is of the essence - please share links as to where to you are getting your indemnity data. I have looked in a lot of places but have not found the numbers yet.

managingwholes commented 3 years ago

Hi Theo

Observable looks just right for this task, and I've admired it from afar since it began without taking the time to learn. I've got a lot on my plate right now so it might be a while. But there could be complementarity with the need to chart changes over time on the fly in soilhealth.app for which I'm working on major changes. Maybe use Vega lite or d3, both of which I want to learn.

Here's a wonderful xkcd.com cartoon which depicts much current practice in science these days.

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On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:32 PM Theo Armour @.***> wrote:

@managingwholes https://github.com/managingwholes

Regarding 3D and clutter, etc. I have started a new discussion item here:

6 https://github.com/theo-armour/maps-2021/discussions/6

Theo, interchanges with you have set me on a path to do the crop insurance mapping as an Observable notebook.

Yay! I heart Mike Bostock and all his efforts.

For my own efforts, I have looked at building Observables more than once but then get dragged into projects where they don't make enough sense.

But I will be delighted to play and test and comment on your efforts. And hope that you can learn a trick or two from my code.

You're welcome to give up on me if this is contrary to your instincts of way of working. And you've inspired me to simplify and explain this whole matter of crop insurance subsidies a little better.

Haha. No way. You're stuck with me for a while. If I have inspired you I want to view the outcomes.

And - this is of the essence - please share links as to where to you are getting your indemnity data. I have looked in a lot of places but have not found the numbers yet.

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