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@greenreveller to ask UUK for open data list of institutions / qualifications
NB for datasets: http://www.hefce.ac.uk/reg/register/ (in XML) Higher Education Statistics Agency https://unistats.direct.gov.uk/ -- this video and this video both offer guidance on using Unistats data. http://www.xcri.co.uk/ https://www.ucas.com/ - not open though!
Have found an XML file (http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/HEFCE,2014/Content/Regulation/Register/Data/GatewayRegister.xml) which gets updated weekly which will give us: Higher Education Institution name Anticipated qualification (eg BA, MA, MEng, BTech, diploma etc)
Questions:
@jordelver would you be able to incorporate the XML data directly into the registration pages or would you need the data in another format?
Additional to course name (and to provide a better means of filtering) we could add the field *Subject and use HESA subject category data (https://www.hesa.ac.uk/dox/dataTables/studentsAndQualifiers/download/Subject1314.xlsx) as a drop-drown (c.15 categories - https://www.hesa.ac.uk/free-statistics). This would provide us a clear way of segmenting the student data.
ACTION: @greenreveller to check with Rachel consider potential problems of using HESA list licence on data?
First Name Last Name
Isn't this already covered by the existing "Your name" field? It would be better to change everyone to have separate first and last name fields but will require a significant amount of work so out of scope for this.
Are you affiliated with a Higher Education Institution? (drop-down) Higher Education Institution type (eg college, uni, school) (drop-down) Subject area (drop-down) Anticipated qualification (eg BA, MA, MEng, BTech, diploma etc) (drop-down)
Do we have all the data for these dropdowns now? Bit unclear :)
Course start/projected end dates (display calendar)
So that's start and end date?
Personal (gmail etc) email address
This is for once the student has left University?
Student address at university Country of residence (drop-down) Personal (home) address
Bit confused by this one. We will already be collecting one address. This should probably be used for "Personal (home) address" and add new fields for "Student address at university"? I don't think we need "Country of residence" in that case?
Mobile number
Isn't this already covered by the existing "Contact number" field?
Heya can you take a look at my comments from Tuesday about XML data - that will help me decide if we have the data ready
Have found an XML file (http://www.hefce.ac.uk/media/HEFCE,2014/Content/Regulation/Register/Data/GatewayRegister.xml) which gets updated weekly which will give us: Higher Education Institution name Anticipated qualification (eg BA, MA, MEng, BTech, diploma etc)
@jordelver would you be able to incorporate the XML data directly into the registration pages or would you need the data in another format?
I have updated the list at the top of the ticket as per your comments:
Personal (gmail etc) email address This is for once the student has left University?
Yes.
Student address at university Country of residence (drop-down) Personal (home) address Bit confused by this one. We will already be collecting one address. This should probably be used for "Personal (home) address" and add new fields for "Student address at university"? I don't think we need "Country of residence" in that case?
Yes that makes sense. I want to know where the student lives when they are not at university (including which country that is). I don't need to know the country for their student address as that will be covered by the 'Country of University' field.
Let's have the primary address collected as their home address and then another field for their address while at university.
Re: the data. That XML looks like it gives us what we need although it needs a fair bit of processing. I'm not sure that is in scope for this? Ideally I need just two lists.
Yes that makes sense. I want to know where the student lives when they are not at university (including which country that is). I don't need to know the country for their student address as that will be covered by the 'Country of University' field.
Ok, that sounds good but do we need the 'Country of University' field? Seems we should know that (or be able to know that) if we have the University name they are attending? Isn't this UK only Universities anyway?
Let's have the primary address collected as their home address and then another field for their address while at university.
Ok. Great.
Also a note about design/layout. We're adding quite a few fields here so there will be design and layout decisions to make. I suggest that I do what I think is best for now and I can re-arrange the fields after you've seen it and fed back?
RE layout - yes that sounds great.
Andrea
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On 25 September 2015 at 13:56, Jordan Elver notifications@github.com wrote:
Also a note about design/layout. We're adding quite a few fields here so there will be design and layout decisions to make. I suggest that I do what I think is best for now and I can re-arrange the fields after you've seen it and fed back?
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Decision to hide the 'country of university' field in the student registration form for now. When students from international universities begin to sign up we will need UI to make the field visible.
The university and qualification lists are in this document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qP2a7Ru_bMb6EoCoB6M6AnFUZ9-_Vki9hVQWjxuxiXI/edit#gid=0
I have taken out the 'what subject are you studying' field from the list above - out of scope for the pilot
@greenreveller this is what the signup page looks like for students. Can you let me know any feedback when you get back please :smile:
A couple of other questions:
1) Should the new student fields (including Twitter and DOB) be synced back to the member directory. I assume this makes sense to do but this doesn't seem to be the case for every existing field, so I wanted to check with you.
2) I haven't added the new student fields to the "My Account" page yet. Existing fields for the member's address and the like are not in there already so it seemed weird to add the student fields and leave the others out? Should we include those missing fields? We should probably discuss when you get back.
@greenreveller here is the signup page with changes made
@jordelver to investigate other ways to capture date data for DOB and course start/end date fields
I think I've found one possible solution that seems like it will work for the start and end date of the course. You tell the date picker to start in "year" mode. It looks something like this:
I know this ^^^ is DOB, but just an example :D
Yep - looks like that would work well. Will we be able to get that ready for user testing tomorrow am? If not, no worries.
Andrea
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On 15 October 2015 at 17:24, Jordan Elver notifications@github.com wrote:
I think I've found one possible solution that seems like it will work for the start and end date of the course. You tell the date picker to start in "year" mode. It looks something like this:
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This is done now 👍
Fantastic, thanks @jordelver
Additional fields required above what we are already asking for (where possible using drop-down menus). I have starred those fields which are required for registration completion. These fields will also need to be visible in members' account pages.
Personal Details (standard registration page plus)...
University Details
On the Chargify page:
@jordelver this is the next piece of work after the mailchimp / capsule mailing list piece. We need quite a lot more data from students. I think it should be easy to import those additional fields into Mailchimp once we have the integration sorted but just wanted to check.