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Regulations and Guidelines for the World Cube Association.
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Stickerless Puzzles #177

Closed lgarron closed 9 years ago

lgarron commented 10 years ago

I like my stickerless cube as much as the next guy, but our policy has always been conservative. It's been hard to have an objective discussion, partially because a lot of competitors simply want to use them (which is fine!), and are not always very sensible about expressing their reasons and discussing them (which is... unproductive).

(Note: Some stickerless puzzles are already allowed. For simplicity, this issue refers to "stickerless" puzzles with internally visible colors, like the Dayan cubes)

Here is an attempt to collect official reasons for and against allowing stickerless cubes:

Reasons for Disallowing

lgarron commented 10 years ago

Just came across this video: Noah demonstrates that you can memorize a cube without ever looking at the bottom/back.

This is an advantage, although it's perfectly fine to say that the advantage is not very useful. In particular, I could see an argument that this doesn't matter much because it can't save a significant amount of time. (However, just because we haven't seen anyone use it to save time doesn't prove anything about whether it's possible.) I think the best justification would be that we're willing to take the risk that this can save competitors time. I would like to say that we can reconsider it if we notice competitors using it, but I think it would be a hard decisions to reverse. Another solution is not to allow stickerless cubes for BLD.

pedrosino commented 10 years ago

I think that the "more information is visible when the layer is at 45 degrees" thing is not very strong. I dont' believe that could actually be used to gain an advantage, at least not at 6-seconds solves where you can barely see what people are doing, even if it's slow motion.

Considering the benefits (people like the plastic/feel/look of the cube, no stickers) I think they should be allowed.

lgarron commented 10 years ago

For the record: Kit sent an email to the Board today asking whether they would be in favor of considering stickerless cubes. This wouldn't be a guarantee that they would be legal, but hopefully the intention to try to allow them will help focus the discussion on more important issues instead.

ghost commented 8 years ago

http://prntscr.com/9acdr2 I thinks is legal to use stickerless cube. The main reason why I believe this: The WCA regulations say so.

lukasjuhrich commented 8 years ago

@TimMm3105 I think you don't realize that this is the very issue which lead to that point. See the referenced commit above (https://github.com/cubing/wca-regulations/commit/238ff5cd0ac093c5a0dfb1eda6e6e2727ade8c12).

myrdinwylt commented 8 years ago

I think that the advantage that stickerless cubes give is not much considering the fact that while speedcubing you will not spend to much time looking at the the corners to see the colors of other pieces.

AlphaZetta commented 3 years ago

Why was this a thing

lgarron commented 3 years ago

Why was this a thing

We were evaluating whether stickerless puzzles should be allowed in the WCA Regulations, and how we could make it clear what would/wouldn't be allowed!