Amazon RDS, GCP Cloud SQL, Azure, Heroku support?

[jqnatividad]

RDS comes with pre-packaged extensions... are there any talks with AWS to include timescale in their supported extensions, given that timescaledb uses the Apache 2.0 license?

[bremnes]

@edencorbin, for Azure follow this feedback issue. They said 6-8 weeks January 23rd. So worst case - if they follow that timeline - we should see it by the end of March.

[SamWoolerton]

Azure has shipped support! https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/power-iot-and-time-series-workloads-with-timescaledb-for-azure-database-for-postgresql/

[mfreed]

Alibaba has recently posted a bunch of tutorials on how to use TimescaleDB on their cloud: https://www.alibabacloud.com/blog/postgresql-time-series-database-plug-in-timescaledb-deployment-practices_594814

[mfreed]

Additionally, this perhaps goes without saying, but a managed version of TimescaleDB is now available on the Timescale Cloud on both AWS and Google Cloud. It includes all enterprise capabilities and billed at an incremental hourly cost.

https://www.timescale.com/cloud-signup

[slidenerd]

In the meantime, if anyone can make a tutorial on how to run timescale with the self managed version of AWS, where you do everything manually, it would be super appreciated, what is it called, EBS?

[ryanrolds]

Any updated ETA for TimescaleDB on AWS RDS?

[JeroneGagliano]

I thought timescaleDB was already working on AWS RDS for postgres. There are installation instructions on timescale's website for postgres 11.

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[ryanrolds]

Do you have a link? I don't see any for AWS RDS, just setting up a cluster outside of RDS.

[JeroneGagliano]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding it, but these instructions AR for installing postgres on and AWS AMI and then connecting it to your postgres database? https://docs.timescale.com/v1.3/getting-started/installation/ami/installation-ubuntu-ami

I have a postgres database setup on RDS and I'm really hoping to use timescale for my project as well.

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[ryanrolds]

Those instructions appear to be for setting up a PG instantace with Timescale DB on EC2 instances using pre-built images, not using RDS.

[JeroneGagliano]

Oh, thank you for the clarification. That's a real bummer.

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[dianasaur323]

In case there is any confusion on this front, here's the current state of things as of the time I posted this (that I know of): AWS - No support GCP - No support Azure - TimescaleDB OSS only Alibaba - TimescaleDB OSS only Digital Ocean - TimescaleDB OSS only Timescale Cloud - TimescaleDB Enterprise

[Drkstr]

How would you go about connecting to a TimescaleDB running on an EC2 or Lightsail instance from a Lambda function?

[EralpB]

I sent another request to rds-postgres-extensions-request@amazon.com is there anything you want us to include in the request?

How would you go about connecting to a TimescaleDB running on an EC2 or Lightsail instance from a Lambda function?

you could do that but it's not a managed service anymore.. only good for side projects.

[forzagreen]

AWS are working on their managed timeseries database, Timestream, that will be released probably in a few months. So I don't expect them to accept any timeseries integration with RDS.

[alex88]

AWS are working on their managed timeseries database, Timestream, that will be released probably in a few months. So I don't expect them to accept any timeseries integration with RDS.

earlier this year they've sent me an email when I've asked about timescaledb support saying:

This is definitely on our 2019 roadmap for RDS Postgres 11

[throrin19]

Any news about AWS support ?

[rskumar]

Waiting for OSS version on AWS RDS

🤓

[punnie]

Regarding AWS, got the following reply after requesting Timescale support to the email address mentioned above:

"L**, D*" <<l@amazon.com>> This is on our roadmap for 2020.

So it seems that support from RDS was delayed a bit.

[solars]

any news already?

[sairam]

@solars, our team started to use https://www.timescale.com/cloud/ in AWS which we tunnel within the VPC. the self serve portal is simple and straight forward.

[Sytten]

You can even terraform it using the provider created by aiven. It works great and the pricing is much on par with what RDS offers.

[throrin19]

In my case I have a specific cloudformation using the latest timescaleDB AMI.

This cloudformation create :

• 1 HAproxy server
• 1 etcd server
• 3 timescleDB servers with patroni to manage cluster and replication primary/secondary on down

[solars]

Thanks for the pointers, we have our infrastructure on AWS (EC2 in Germany). The timescale cloud option seems nice, but if I compare costs right now it's much more expensive (we're at the lower side of the offers).

[sairam]

@solars , one suggestion we got during our onboarding was a possibility to move the complete database infra to avian hosted timescaledb since they support regular database tables as well on the new server instance.

The amount of data reduction may help based on your usecase too which would save on the disk space usage.

Cheers,

[sytabaresa]

Any update about this? :thinking:

[silentlight]

It's really a bummer that you still cannot use TimescaleDB on RDS :(

[djrobby]

It's really a bummer that you still cannot use TimescaleDB on RDS :(

Most likely because such an extension causes direct conflict of interest with AWS’ own https://aws.amazon.com/timestream/

[kiwicopple]

Not sure where to post this. It looks like this issue is the best fit.

We are discussing Timescale over at Supabase: https://github.com/supabase/postgres/issues/5#issuecomment-636893064 ☝️ This repo packages Postgres with other useful extensions. It's unclear whether we can offer this based on the licensing terms. The main reason is that Supabase has a hosted platform ourselves. We only want to package extensions which our customers can use too.

Is there anyone in the Timescale team that we can chat to about this? I see a number of benefits for Timescale - our images make it extremely easy to get started with Postgres and try out different extensions. We already have Docker, Digital Ocean, AWS, with more platforms on the way.

[benedictjohannes]

In case there is any confusion on this front, here's the current state of things as of the time I posted this (that I know of): AWS - No support GCP - No support Azure - TimescaleDB OSS only Alibaba - TimescaleDB OSS only Digital Ocean - TimescaleDB OSS only Timescale Cloud - TimescaleDB Enterprise

I was interested in using TimescaleDB in Alibaba Cloud, which is mentioned as available here. But I don't seem to find it in ApsaraDB PostgreSQL docs. It seems like the article mentioned by another is discussing how to use timescaleDB in a self-managed VM instead of managed PosgreSQL DB like the Apsara. Any thoughts?

[akulkarni]

Hi @kiwicopple I just saw your comment. Could you email me at ajay (at) timescale.com?

[akulkarni]

Hi all - Timescale Cloud is now available on AWS, GCP, and Azure in over 75 regions: https://www.timescale.com/cloud

It is the only hosted service where you can get the full TimescaleDB experience: native compression, continuous aggregations, data retention policies, etc. These features aren't available on other hosted services. So even if AWS were to offer TimescaleDB, you wouldn't be getting the key TimescaleDB features.

In particular, most of our users with compression are seeing over 96% storage savings, which often can make Timescale Cloud cheaper than the equivalent on RDS (and others).

Hope this helps!

[benedictjohannes]

@akulkarni I really appreciate the hard work that has been put in building this awesome product. I'm inclined on the hosted / managed TimescaleDB service, but one concern is holding me back. My use case would be a small sized infrequent-insert very-frequent-access IoT sensor reading. For this, I would rather have a low CPU count, small storage but large RAM (due to almost all FLOAT columns). I can imagine other use cases like web scrapping data warehouse that can produce very large (TEXT) data per row that would need large storage (but not large RAM).

Please correct me if I'm wrong: When I'd like to launch hosted TimescaleDB solution, I found that the configuration offered when I see the pricing page is rather limited, and it restrict my option that (I reckon) can result in more deployment cost saving, thus using hosted TimescaleDB might (probably) result in unnecessary cost due to unnecessary resource provisioning.

If full machine type flexibility can be added, it would practically wipe this concern away.

[akulkarni]

Hi @benedictjohannes - sorry for the delayed response.

Given your concern for more fine-tuned provisioning, have you considered Timescale Forge? https://www.timescale.com/forge

We recently launched Forge as a second hosted service to complement Timescale Cloud. It allows you to independently scale compute/storage (among other advanced features). (However, unlike Timescale Cloud, it does not let you choose which cloud/region to operate in.)

Let me know if that can do the job. Cheers!

[akulkarni]

@benedictjohannes Forgot to add: We get great compression for floats, which will also reduce your resource requirements: https://docs.timescale.com/latest/using-timescaledb/compression

[benedictjohannes]

@akulkarni I've looked on Timescale Forge link. It certainly looks promising, I'll have a closer look. But it would be even better if the cloud service is more flexible. Or, maybe timescale can be offered directly as service through the cloud platform (GCP marketplase in my case), maybe like how Redhat offers RHEL?

[mkindahl]

Closing this issue since it is not related to the TimescaleDB extension. This issue is added to the internal Forge backlog, which means that it is taken into consideration by the Forge team and might be implemented some time in the future.

[douglasg14b]

This issue is old enough to be in kindergarden, is there any news on RDS support or similar?

[willfarrell]

Not supported on RDS at this time. I mention it to my account manager every chance I can. If everyone does the same, it will happen one day.