Updating packages misses dependencies and clean up compared to dnf update

[Woi]

After installing all available updates with yumex-dnf 4.1.5 on Fedora 23, it's sometimes possible to do more "update operations" using dnf update.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Wait for a kernel update being available in Fedora 23 repos.
2. Install all available updates with yumex-dnf.
3. Search again for updates with yumex-dnf. Note that no updates are available.
4. Open a shell and run sudo dnf update immediately afterwards.
5. dnf reports packages available for update and clean up.

Actual result:

$ LANG=en_US.utf8
$ sudo dnf upgrade
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:45:00 ago on Tue Feb  2 13:27:04 2016.
Dependencies resolved.
==============================================================================================================================================================================================
 Package                                              Arch                                   Version                                           Repository                                Size
==============================================================================================================================================================================================
Installing:
 kernel-modules-extra                                 x86_64                                 4.3.4-300.fc23                                    updates                                  2.2 M
Removing:
 kernel                                               x86_64                                 4.3.3-300.fc23                                    @updates                                   0  
 kernel-core                                          x86_64                                 4.3.3-300.fc23                                    @updates                                  51 M
 kernel-modules                                       x86_64                                 4.3.3-300.fc23                                    @updates                                  17 M

Transaction Summary
==============================================================================================================================================================================================
Install  1 Package
Remove   3 Packages

Total download size: 2.2 M
Is this ok [y/N]: 

Expected result:

$ sudo dnf upgrade
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:55:06 ago on Tue Feb  2 13:27:04 2016.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!
$ 

[Woi]

Looks like this issue has already been report in RHBZ: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1286389

[timlau]

You can set Option -> Cleanup old instonly packages to get the same behavior as in dnf CLI

(You can set the default for this option in Preferences)

There is also a remove unused requiments option, there will remove dependencies no longer in use.

[careca1970]

Hello. Sorry, but the issue exists. Please, refer to this bugzilla thread: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1286389 Many thanks

[genodeftest]

I can confirm this "issue" being present even with "Cleanup old instonly packages" enabled. In this case the redundant packages are removed later on.

For clarification some steps to reproduce:

1. have a kernel update
2. use yumex-dnf to install kernel update
3. note installed/removed packages: no kernel packages will be removed
4. do any other transaction (install, update, remove, downgrade) with yumex-dnf
5. note pending changes: kernel package will be removed here

So yumex-dnf is behaving different from dnf in that it doesn't immediately remove the redundant package. I would not call this a bug, but others might thing differently. Any thoughts on that? Is it clear now?

[timlau]

[timlau]

[timlau]

The current development version does, what you expect it to do, with the right options turned on

Some options might need a restart of yumex, to work

[genodeftest]

You are right, I can reproduce it works as intended and expected on 4.3.x.. Thanks! I think I was remembering I reproduced the issue on 4.1.x.

[alh61]

Tim, only the part that cleans seems to work with those settings. The much more importent bug, that not all kernel files are updated still is there in copr version. I just installed copr version in F24, where there are pending updates for kernel. Yumex only shows updates for: kernel kernel-headers kernel-tool-libs trying dnf, I get this list: Installerer: kernel kernel-core kernel-debug-core kernel-debug-modules kernel-debug-modules-extra kernel-devel kernel-modules Opgrader: kernel-headers kernel-tools-libs Fjerner: kernel kernel-core kernel-debug-core kernel-debug-modules kernel-debug-modules-extra kernel-devel kernel-modules

as you can see, Yumex is missing a lot of kernel-* files, and as a result, the system ends up with kernel files with mixed versions, which will break other packages.

This is a nasty bug.

[timlau]

Ok, I will look into how the DNF cli handles that

[alh61]

btw, the old yumex (yum) works correctly too, and finds all kernel files (on F23)

[Woi]

There is also the aspect of out-of-box behaviour: yumex-dnf with default settings (that is: no settings changed by user) should behave the same as dnf does.

[timlau]

@Woi, the issueis when using DNF API dont have same defaults as the DNF CLI application and the defaults has beeen changing over time, so I am playiing catch up. Yumex save the users selections, so even if I change the default setting, it is still set to the old value in the users yumex.conf. The current yumex development version will havde better defaults and more user friendly configuration

[Woi]

Setting "Clean up old Instonly packages" somewhat helped in my setup, but there is still an old package left:

$ sudo dnf update
Last metadata expiration check: 0:03:39 ago on Mon May  2 21:48:05 2016.
Dependencies resolved.
================================================================================
 Package                   Arch      Version                Repository     Size
================================================================================
Installing:
 kernel-devel              i686      4.4.8-300.fc23         updates        10 M
 kernel-modules-extra      i686      4.4.8-300.fc23         updates       2.1 M
Removing:
 kernel-devel              i686      4.4.5-300.fc23         @updates       37 M

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install  2 Packages
Remove   1 Package

Total download size: 12 M
Is this ok [y/N]: 

And as alh61 already sad: The more important issue are the packages missed to install.

The current yumex development version will havde better defaults and more user friendly configuration

Sounds good. Is there a place to read more about the changes?

[alh61]

Sounds good. Is there a place to read more about the changes?

http://yumex.dk There is also info, how you can get the new version from copr.

[timlau]

This commit will make all kernel packages to be show in yumex-dnf https://github.com/timlau/dnf-daemon/commit/502a439df98d3c06fe7e6cba85a3725584265e34

Add a new build to copr tomorrow

[timlau]

new releases in COPR and soon in Fedora Rawhide & F24

[alh61]

Tried the COPR release in F24 - worked fine now. We need this fix in F23 (and maybe F22?) too.