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Scripting interface for NRAO CASA casapy pipeline routines.
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Licence and accreditation #4

Closed drphilmarshall closed 9 years ago

drphilmarshall commented 9 years ago

Hi Tim!

Warren Morningstar (Stanford PHD student, @wmorning) and I are doing some ALMA simulation work, and starting to use this marvelous little interface that you have written. Thank you! For now we are simply using the pip-installed code, but in future it's possible that Warren will want to make some modifications. Thank you for providing such good documentation on how to do this. I have (in time-honored academic style) a question and a comment. First: when the time comes, which of your papers would you recommend we (read and then) cite? We'll put a note in the acknowledgments too, but a citation is worth more. Second: have you considered putting a license file in your repo? At the moment you are both encouraging people to modify your code, but also labeling it copyright - so it might be good to clear that up by adopting the MIT license or something, to make it clear that you are fully open source. I usually put a note on both accreditation and licensing in the README, and other docs too.

Thanks again for the code!

Phil Marshall SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory

PS. I am visiting Oxford in May. Hopefully see you then!

timstaley commented 9 years ago

Hi Phil, thanks for the note! I think it's now safe to say drive-casa has at least two developer-users who aren't me, which is gratifying.

I was initially a bit confused by your comment on licensing, but looking back at the docs (and README) I see I haven't made it explicit anywhere, so I'll have to correct that. The code is BSD 3-clause licensed, as that's just the default licence I've been applying to code as I make it available. As far as I can tell BSD-3 is effectively the same as the MIT license except with an additional 'no endorsement without permission' (which is almost certainly unwarranted for this stuff), but I could probably be persuaded to switch if it makes a real difference to anyone.

Regarding citation - I have a 90% complete publication on this stuff waiting for submission, which has been on the back-burner for a few weeks while I concentrate on other work, but it sounds like I should really get that done. I'll update the docs once that is published, but in the worst case if you beat me to it, just drop me an email and I should be able to justify an official stamping of this ASCL submission by letting them know a publication is about to drop.

Ironically I shall be in the US for most of May (Hotwiring the transient universe IV + vacation) but if you're around at the beginning of May then I'll try to catch up with you!

Cheers, Tim.

drphilmarshall commented 9 years ago

Nice! You should put the link to the ASCL record and a note about citing (Staley et al in prep) for now on the README - it's good to remind people that nothing comes for completely free, even if you don't have an arxiv number yet. In any case, I don't think we'll be publishing before you, which is good!

BTW if you want to "publish" your 90% paper before it is finished (so that you can direct people to read, and thence cite it, check out gh-publisher, demo'd here: http://drphilmarshall.github.io/Ideas-for-Citizen-Science-in-Astronomy/ View the project on github to see how this works).

Hope to see you in May!

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Tim Staley notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi Phil, thanks for the note! I think it's now safe to say drive-casa has at least two developer-users who aren't me, which is gratifying.

I was initially a bit confused by your comment on licensing, but looking back at the docs (and README) I see I haven't made it explicit anywhere, so I'll have to correct that. In short: drive-casa is BSD 3-clause licensed https://github.com/timstaley/drive-casa/blob/master/LICENCE.txt, as that's just the default licence I've been applying to code as I make it available. As far as I can tell BSD-3 is effectively the same as the MIT license except with an additional 'no endorsement without permission' (which is almost certainly unwarranted for this stuff), but I could probably be persuaded to switch if it makes a real difference to anyone.

Regarding citation - I have a 90% complete publication on this stuff waiting for submission, which has been on the back-burner for a few weeks while I concentrate on other work, but it sounds like I should really get that done. I'll update the docs once that is published, but in the worst case if you beat me to it, just drop me an email and I should be able to justify an official stamping of this ASCL submission http://ascl.net/code/v/1037 by letting them know a publication is about to drop.

Ironically I shall be in the US for most of May (Hotwiring the transient universe IV + vacation) but if you're around at the beginning of May then I'll try to catch up with you!

Cheers, Tim.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/timstaley/drive-casa/issues/4#issuecomment-83992042.

timstaley commented 9 years ago

Can't quite be bothered to set up a Travis build, but I've just uploaded the draft paper to https://github.com/timstaley/automated-radio-imaging-paper. There's a pre-built copy of the current version at https://www.dropbox.com/s/f18nga3dmv469q5/automated_radio_reduction.pdf?dl=0 if you're interested.

drphilmarshall commented 9 years ago

Great, thanks Tim!

On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Tim Staley notifications@github.com wrote:

Can't quite be bothered to set up a Travis build, but I've just uploaded the draft paper to https://github.com/timstaley/automated-radio-imaging-paper. There's a pre-built copy of the current version at https://www.dropbox.com/s/f18nga3dmv469q5/automated_radio_reduction.pdf?dl=0 if you're interested.

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timstaley commented 9 years ago

Reference now available in (pre-)published, citable format: http://arxiv.org/abs/1505.08123 Cheers, Tim

drphilmarshall commented 9 years ago

Bravo! @wmorning, please update your bibtex file :-)

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Tim Staley notifications@github.com wrote:

Reference now available in published, citable format: http://arxiv.org/abs/1505.08123 Cheers, Tim

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/timstaley/drive-casa/issues/4#issuecomment-107385143.