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A draft for a new, richer dictionary for the Toaq language.
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«huao» #19

Open uakci opened 5 years ago

uakci commented 5 years ago
"huao": {
  "official": {
    "english": "▯ is loose.",
    "gloss": "loose"
  },
  "frame": "c"
}

Definition unclear. The word hasn't been used even once. Wiktionary gives at least 7 relevant definitions:

  1. Not fixed in place tightly or firmly.

    This wheelbarrow has a loose wheel.

  2. Not held or packaged together.

    You can buy apples in a pack, but they are cheaper loose.

  3. Not under control.

    The dog is loose again.

  4. Not fitting closely

    I wear loose clothes when it is hot.

  5. Not compact.

    It is difficult walking on loose gravel. a cloth of loose texture

  6. Relaxed.

    She danced with a loose flowing movement.

  7. Not precise or exact; vague; indeterminate.

    a loose way of reasoning

lynn commented 3 years ago

I suggest 1 and 4 (and I guess 5?) as literal meanings, and the others as metaphorical meanings (I defined huaomōe once for feeling relaxed / stress-free.)

I've always assumed this is Lojban's kluza. A húao is something that can easily (be) move(d) around a little in its otherwise relatively fixed position. A rúeq (Lojban tagji) is something that has no such wiggle room in its fixed position.

I quite like the x2 of these Lojban words. You can think of these as position words like buı or neo. A shirt can be loose on my torso while I'm wearing it, but tight on someone else's body while they are wearing it. A lid is tight on a bottle. So, maybe these two should have a second place for the thing they're tight on, or loose/bloused on.

Maybe then a rigid thing is then taq rueq and an flexible thing is taq huao 😮 .

xorxes commented 3 years ago

I don't think you need an "on" slot because you can have rueq neo, rueq nie, rueq rei, rueq heq, rueq coe, rueq tie, etc,

lynn commented 3 years ago

That's a good point! I might even prefer it that way.