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Search for LibGuides Topics #39

Open tomadams opened 3 years ago

tomadams commented 3 years ago

Tom: Topics of LibGuides appearing in Search

With regards to the search, how can we ensure that the topics in our Libguides appear to Library search?

Sue:

Libguides in the search results: The consultants explained last year (July 2019), that the website search can not return results from external websites, such as https://cshl.libguides.com/ without the aid of a 3rd party tool such as Ex Libris Primo or ProQuest Summon. The website search is only a faceted search and can only index pages and posts that physically reside on www.cshl.edu. The faceted search does not have the ability to do a federated search and index content on other websites.

Tom:

My other questions was how to make topics in our LibGuide available for search within the consolidated website. To accomplish that we might need to have a post for each of our LibGuides, with a title, summary and link to the LibGuide entry itself. With a “LibGuide” tag on each post. (I realize the website will not be able to index another website.) Is that the best way of doing it?

Sue:

How many LibGuides are there? Making a separate page for each just to get them indexed is a possibility but I'm concerned with the amount of pages. Also, each page will need to have a short summary so that a description will come up in the search results. Then there's the maintenance of those pages if anything ever changes on the LibGuides website you will have to remember to check the corresponding page on the website so they don't get out of synch.

The only other way would be to have a single page that lists all the LibGuides each with a summary and then a link out to the LibGuides website. I can try setting up a page with a couple of LibGuides as a test to see how the search returns results for the them.

Tom:

There are currently 41 guides.

I was thinking there would be a posting for each LibGuide, almost like an announcement for each individual guide, so that when a new guide is developed, there would be an announcement on the integrated library website (with a tag of LibGuide) that would summaries the content of the guide with a link to it. That would also be picked up by search.

There might also be a page that would list all of those LibGuide tagged announcements.

Sue:

Can you open a github issue for this? I need to think about this for a day to come up with the best solution. I don't want it to get buried in my inbox and forget about it.

Tom:

Our email thoughts added to github.

srunkows commented 3 years ago

Tom -

I put together a sample page for the LibGuides to get them into the search results.

I created a single page that lists the LibGuides, it currently only has the first 3 LibGuides just to get a feel for what it would look like. I think this will be easier to maintain than having individual pages for each LibGuide. I'm still trying to come up with a best layout/design for the page than just a running list of all the guides. I just wanted to get something down on a page to make sure it worked with the search, which btw, works very well. Have a look at: https://lib-review-cshl-core.pantheonsite.io/library/resources/libguides/

And then when you want to announce a new LibGuide, you could create a Library News post and then link to the post from the Library homepage in a callout box. Something like this: https://lib-review-cshl-core.pantheonsite.io/library_news/new-libguide-research-data-management-at-cshl/

Let me know your thoughts on this concept. Thanks!

srunkows commented 3 years ago

Here's an alternative layout, 2 columns: https://lib-review-cshl-core.pantheonsite.io/library/resources/libguides-2-column-layout/

tomadams commented 3 years ago

The alternative layout looks nice, but it is not being seen when I type in "scholarly publishing". I only see the original, single column page, in the search results.

srunkows commented 3 years ago

The alternative layout looks nice, but it is not being seen when I type in "scholarly publishing". I only see the original, single column page, in the search results.

It's possible the search software is seeing it as duplicate content and only serving up one page. I'll look into it. I'll remove the 2 column page and make the original page into 2 columns to see if it finds the content.

srunkows commented 3 years ago

Please provide the content you want on this page, word doc or text doc is fine. I need the following info to finish building the page:

LibGuide Title Link to LinGuide Summary paragraph

tomadams commented 3 years ago

After looking at the search results of a single page listing all of the guides, which did not always display the name of the guide in the search result and what would seem duplicative effort of maintain that page and announcing a new LibGuide. It might be best to just to ONLY go with having the Library news post, as you showed at:

https://lib-review-cshl-core.pantheonsite.io/library_news/new-libguide-research-data-management-at-cshl/

In the search results, for those items can instead of displaying "Library News", can it be tagged to display "Library LibGuide"?

srunkows commented 3 years ago

I need to investigate if it is possible to change the name from Library News to Library LibGuide depending on the content. I don't think this is possible only because the search results 'heading' comes from the post type.

Can we mark this as a future enhancement for now and address it after the initial launch of your pages?