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tomdionysus / foaas

FOAAS (Fuck Off As A Service) provides a modern, RESTful, scalable solution to the common problem of telling people to fuck off.
http://foaas.com
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Removed the retard option to close #107 #109

Closed robotmachine closed 8 years ago

jungshadow commented 8 years ago

:+1:

(Personally, I'm sad this even had to happen @robotmachine, but thanks for doing it)

karenetheridge commented 8 years ago

:-1:

SwooshyCueb commented 8 years ago

:+1:

shadowcat-mst commented 8 years ago

So, shall we replace it with 'moron'? Or 'idiot'? Or 'slow'? How far back do we need to go along the euphemism treadmill before we're safe?

Should we remove 'bad' as well because its etymology apparently involved criticising men for being effeminate a few centuries ago?

SwooshyCueb commented 8 years ago

I'm not currently inclined to debate this sort of thing in a github pull request, but personally I'd like to stay away from 'slow' as well.

I vote in favor of replacing 'Fucktard' with 'Fucknugget'. Doesn't contribute to any negative social stigmas that I'm aware of.

dha commented 8 years ago

Although I'm not convinced this isn't a slippery slope as indicated by @shadowcat-mst, I don't think replacing Fucktard with Fucknugget is terribly problematic as, in this context, it appears to convey the same sentiment.

jungshadow commented 8 years ago

I'm fine with @SwooshyCueb's idea of replacing the endpoint with /nugget or similar, but that could be handled in a separate PR. Would this be fine to purely cover the removal?

SSederberg commented 8 years ago

This operation can be changed to mean something else that doesn't ruin the context and your feelings. The idea @SwooshyCueb put is acceptable.

Edit: Wrong User, not enough caffeine...

philip2156 commented 8 years ago

I'd also vote for /dumbfuck to repalce it hah

theromulans commented 8 years ago

:+1: Would be nice to have a replacement rather than a straight up removal.

philip2156 commented 8 years ago

I would not only vote for /dumbfuck as the replacement (unless its offensive as well? I'm Australian, not a lot offends me.) but I will merge it if changed in this PR

barnumbirr commented 8 years ago

:-1: really people? really?

robotmachine commented 8 years ago

I have no desire to replace this with anything. Someone else is welcome to take up that task.

robotmachine commented 8 years ago

I wrote too many feelings out on the issue here.

jungshadow commented 8 years ago

I think this removal requires the addition of some documentation of the guidelines for political correctness. For instance, we'd need to make it clear not to add the word "idiot", as well.

@v6 Not to speak for @robotmachine, but my impression is that this PR isn't about creating guidelines–which should be a longer discussion in another issue and I agree that it would be helpful–it's purely about removing one endpoint that is offensive to a community of people. There may be other instances of overtly offensive references, but, for the time being, it should be fine for these updates to happen organically.

Plus, it would need regression tests to see whether more offensive words have been reintroduced.

While testing for overtly offensive words may be beneficial, I believe catching many of these sorts of issues is going to be a human process.

For instance, I understand that the words "master," "dumb" and "slave", while used innocuously in the technical community as words for replication, are also quite offensive to the disadvantaged.

Possibly more evidence why the technical community feels exclusionary and isolating to many people.

I'm really surprised and disheartened that anyone is willing to push back on this change. It fine to be irreverent and humorous, but not hurtful/hateful.

robotmachine commented 8 years ago

@jungshadow The purpose of v6's comment is to prove that any effort to make a change like this would require loads of back-end work and process because if it is worth removing now then we must ensure it never happens again.

It is identical to the argument that banning guns won't work because criminals don't follow the law. ie. if it isn't going to be 100% effective then it has failed and shouldn't be attempted.

SSederberg commented 8 years ago

"... any effort to make a change like this would require loads of back-end work and process because if it is worth removing now then we must ensure it never happens again."

Well, it would be nice to not have to repeat this process every time someone is offended or wants an operation removed. Better now than later.

kvannotten commented 8 years ago

:-1: this PC stuff is getting out of hand tbh

atomboulian commented 8 years ago

:-1: "Fuck off" is offensive to everyone. It is meant to be an offensive service. It does not discriminate against any particular type of person; it treats every person the same. Certain persons are not exempt from mean comments directly or indirectly. I'm with @kvannotten.

karenetheridge commented 8 years ago

is "fuck off" discriminatory against asexual people?

atomboulian commented 8 years ago

well played @karenetheridge :smirk:

philip2156 commented 8 years ago

@atomboulian @karenetheridge :+1:

surdu commented 8 years ago

:-1: :-1:

http://foaas.com/thumbs/This%20Guy/surdu

RealDolos commented 8 years ago

:-1: I identify as a retard and feel offended that people say my identify is offensive. My pronouns are: tard/tardo

On an unrelated note, @jungshadow looks too white to have a nick name like this, I smell some sweet, sweet cultural appropriation

robotmachine commented 8 years ago

Are you fucking kidding me with this shit, @RealDolos? https://twitter.com/dolosthegreat/status/696198317848526848

I'm sorry that you are so fragile that the slightest disagreement makes you go ragepost on Twitter. http://foaas.com/bucket/robotmachine

RealDolos commented 8 years ago

@robotmachine Some people just cannot take a "thank you" I guess... Also look who is raging now xD

PS

I'm sorry that you are so fragile that the slightest disagreement makes you go ragepost on Twitter. http://foaas.com/bucket/robotmachine

Oh wait, that's homophobic I suppose. You should file an issue to have it removed...

robotmachine commented 8 years ago

You're right, @RealDolos. Thank you for being you. It would be nice if you'd at least be good enough <3 my tweets or something you adorable little fucknugget, you.

Oh wait, that's homophobic I suppose. You should file an issue to have it removed...

I didn't say it had to be gay cocks you were choking on. They can be fake for all I care. My main concern is just that several cocks or cock-like implements find their way in to your general esophageal area.

ChlorideCull commented 8 years ago

I didn't say it had to be gay cocks you were choking on. They can be fake for all I care. My main concern is just that several cocks or cock-like implements find their way in to your general esophageal area.

Well, @robotmachine, as a homosexual, i find it offensive that you believe such a thing is a punishment.

In all seriousness though, :-1:, this is a service meant to offend everyone, and it clearly does.

ghost commented 8 years ago

This is pretty fucking ironic. I would like to direct people in favor of this change to kindly fuck off.

tomdionysus commented 8 years ago

All things considered, foaas.com isn't PC, and as has been repeatedly pointed out, it's meant to be offensive in a lighthearted and ironic way, and if you're easily offended you probably shouldn't be anywhere near it, so I think i'll keep it as it is.

v6 commented 6 years ago

// , Apparently my thoughtful, correctly languaged, supportive comment, with helpful suggestions for how to work out such problems by protecting the gentle denizens of Github from hate speech, has been removed from the record.

I can't imagine what anyone would think we'd gain by its removal.