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The Front-end Tooling Book

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Closed tomByrer closed 10 years ago

tomByrer commented 10 years ago

Edit:

List of msc tools

fez - JS general purpose build tool based on tup

Static web page builders

roots, docpad, wintersmith, borschik Mimosa - emphases module loader endgame

Static web server

harp

There are several other tools that should be mentioned, like:

http://roots.cx/

A light, super fast, and intuitive static build system made for front end development and building web apps. Roots comes in the form of a static site build tool by default, but also includes templates and plugins for express and rails.

On Github: Watch: 42, Star: 784, Closed Issues: 324 Node based, on GitHub for over a year, almost weekly updates, somewhat opinionated it seems. Doesn't seem to have a plug-in system, so the use-cases are narrowed to static sites or SPAs. Enough popularity for a mention IMHO.

dashed commented 10 years ago

This looks like a static-site generator like docpad or wintersmith than a build system.

tomByrer commented 10 years ago

That is true. Though static web pages & processing code (since many GitHub projects are just JavaScript with perhaps a few assets) are common use cases of all build systems.

dashed commented 10 years ago

Ah... build tool. I got confused with build system.

I haven't heard of that term before.

If that's the case shouldn't docpad be considered?

/cc @bevry

tomByrer commented 10 years ago

Ah... build tool. I got confused with build system.

I think you brought up a good point; perhaps more emphasis should be on multipurpose tools. Yes, why not consider, roots, docpad, wintersmith, borschik, etc? I'm still looking for feedback how long to spend on each one.

dashed commented 10 years ago

@tomByrer are JS based build tools only considered?

It seems that the entire book (from what I see in the TOC) will be about front-end tooling based on JS.

I think this distinction should be noted on the readme.

@addyosmani comments on this?

tomByrer commented 10 years ago

Seems most of the newer front-end tools are Node-based. Ant & make are already slated, I think there may be a Ruby-based system also?

dashed commented 10 years ago

There are a lot of static-site generators in a variety of languages and most of them can be used as build-tools.

Probably JS and ruby based (maybe even python?) build-tools should be considered. Then from there you can create a shortlist and choose which of those will go into the book.

sindresorhus commented 10 years ago

Should be JS. JS is the front-end, build-systems should be too.

While interesting, we should try to limit our scope, at least in the first version. Should definitely mention it though.

wilmoore commented 10 years ago

Probably best to stick to JS build-systems and outside of that, only mention:

systems that have a great deal of popularity despite being non-JS (i.e. rake).
have significant mindshare due to simplicity and history (i.e. make).
have an advantage in being the best tool for the job for simple apps/libs (i.e. make).

sindresorhus commented 10 years ago

yup

addyosmani commented 10 years ago

Agree. We can always expand our focus in future iterations.

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addyosmani commented 10 years ago

For now we're going to stick to documenting articles for JS build systems. We can always look at adding coverage for miscellaneous build tools in a future version.

tomByrer commented 10 years ago

@addyosmani The alt tools mentioned (roots, docpad, wintersmith, borschik) all run in JS. Did you close because you want no mention of these at all?

addyosmani commented 10 years ago

Oh not at all! I think we should cover these tools in a future iteration if there's sufficient interest, but not in the first version.

We have a lot of topics to cover and it would be great to stay focused on a smaller set and then expand.

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tomByrer commented 10 years ago

added Mimosa