search

tpetricek / anarchy-workshop

13 stars 1 forks source link

Workshop title #1

Open tpetricek opened 8 years ago

tpetricek commented 8 years ago

We need workshop title! In our earlier revolutionary meetings, we had some thoughts:

As much as I like both of the titles, I don't think they quite reflect the current abstract I put together (which is more about "constructive critical review and commentary" as an evaluation method). I hope this evaluation method opens space for submissions that are "witchcraft, heresy and dissent" when seen from the "standard evaluation method" perspective, but I'm not sure that's good basis for a title.

Any ideas?

amb26 commented 8 years ago

Some ideas: "New paradigms to replace computation" or simply "New paradigms for computation" "Beyond the Algol research programme" "The end of prehistory for computation" "In search of the incommensurable" "Uncovering the subject matter of computer science" "Dialectics for new computer science"

Btw I found a great quotation from Judith Grabiner that takes Gabriel's observations about engineering yet further, I think we want to bring this sequence to the fore in how we position the workshop:

"The derivative was first used; it was then discovered; it was then explored and developed; and it was finally defined."

We need to make it absolutely clear that going around defining things (or still worse, proving them) is no way to uncover new paradigms.

dorchard commented 8 years ago

Love the Judith Grabiner quote. It strikes me that some of the aims somewhat align with OBT (http://conf.researchr.org/track/POPL-2016/OBT-2016-talks#About) but I think what you've written in the (VERY GOOD) proposal so far is much more well defined, in a helpful way.

A few random ideas:

JonathanMEdwards commented 8 years ago

Salon des Refusés

gasche commented 8 years ago

Critical Review of Unformal Designs? (I also like "Dialectics for new computer science" and " Computational alchemy").

dorchard commented 8 years ago

I like "Dialectics for new computer science". What about some kind of combo like "Dialectics And Paradigms of Programming Language Research" (DAPPLR)?

tpetricek commented 8 years ago

Thanks for all the comments!

I wonder if we could go with some combination using workshop title with subtitle? Perhaps:

The thing I really like about "Salon des Refusés" is that it is very distinctive - you'll recognise it, probably google the name :) and you will remember that it is not just another PWLTA (Programming Workshop with Long Title and Acronym).

But if more people think that "refusés" is bad word to have in a title (even with sub-title to provide the positive aspect), then I'm OK to abandon it (and perhaps go just with the "Dialectics for new computer science" or "Dialectics for avant-garde computer science")

gasche commented 8 years ago

On the second part of your proposed title: I didn't realize before, but maybe "Dialectics for computer science" suffices. Defining once's work as "new" or "avant-garde" is a daring promise to make -- I'm reminded of Wolfram's A New Kind of Science.

amb26 commented 8 years ago

Whilst promising something new could seem hubristic, not promising something new seems likely to doom us to retread the old before we are out of the gate :) Also, given we are not making the claim about any specific work, we should be clear to ourselves and to our attendees that we are merely allowing for the new, not promising to actually produce it.