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The Transcendent Progressivism (t/prog) Manifesto: A Vision for Humanity's Future
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Healthcare and privacy related changes #4

Open ALittlePatate opened 3 months ago

ALittlePatate commented 3 months ago

I thought about adding nuclear energy as well but it is still debated:

Also, would nuclear energy qualify as a Green Technology ? In the sense that it doesn't produce any CO2, is energy-efficient and uses sustainable materials

FOSS software should be mentioned as well but i'm not sure where to put it

nanovin commented 3 months ago

Individuals must also have the right to ask for instant removal of their personal data from any platform.

i think this is too vague. depending on how data is defined it could hinder the ability for platforms to function

ALittlePatate commented 3 months ago

Individuals must also have the right to ask for instant removal of their personal informations from any database, physical or not and from any entity (private or public).

Would this be better ? It is not very well worded but you get the idea

vikingSec commented 3 months ago

Individuals must also have the right to ask for instant removal of their personal informations from any database, physical or not and from any entity (private or public).

Would this be better ? It is not very well worded but you get the idea

This is great in theory, but horrific in practice, and for blockchain related tech, very likely impossible in a lot of contexts.

IMHO a good alternative would be individuals should also have the right to ask for instant cessation of the flow of their personal data to any platform, database, etc. with a focus on granular control of data flows so that a user can request that their personal data no longer flows to a platform.

idk though, this is a tough balance to hit between personal privacy and the ability to operate platforms that depend heavily on user data.

ALittlePatate commented 3 months ago

Individuals must also have the right to ask for instant removal of their personal informations from any database, physical or not and from any entity (private or public).

Would this be better ? It is not very well worded but you get the idea

This is great in theory, but horrific in practice, and for blockchain related tech, very likely impossible in a lot of contexts.

IMHO a good alternative would be individuals should also have the right to ask for instant cessation of the flow of their personal data to any platform, database, etc. with a focus on granular control of data flows so that a user can request that their personal data no longer flows to a platform.

idk though, this is a tough balance to hit between personal privacy and the ability to operate platforms that depend heavily on user data.

It seems like a good way to put it yeah. what does everyone think ?

aroesec commented 3 months ago

Would the deletion/cessation of data flows to particular platforms also prevent those requesting this from using the services of these platforms? If someone on a council or in some part of decentralized governance (in this case) requests this, wouldn't it conflict with the ideals of transparency?

vikingSec commented 3 months ago

Would the deletion/cessation of data flows to particular platforms also prevent those requesting this from using the services of these platforms? If someone on a council or in some part of decentralized governance (in this case) requests this, wouldn't it conflict with the ideals of transparency?

Almost definitely, I would think, but that's kind of a natural end state. If a platform relies on a specific data set to operate, taking away that data set makes it difficult to operate.

Now, there are tons of cases where platforms could be requesting data they do not need outside of selling it for profit or using it to advertise. If they say they need the data to operate but don't, that's a different situation. At the moment, there are cases of such platforms having to request access to specific data, like Twitter requesting certain data that you can opt out of.

It's hard as an outsider in the current environment to know if the data that's being collected is actually required or if it's just being used in surveillance capitalism.

aroesec commented 3 months ago

Would the deletion/cessation of data flows to particular platforms also prevent those requesting this from using the services of these platforms? If someone on a council or in some part of decentralized governance (in this case) requests this, wouldn't it conflict with the ideals of transparency?

Almost definitely, I would think, but that's kind of a natural end state. If a platform relies on a specific data set to operate, taking away that data set makes it difficult to operate.

Now, there are tons of cases where platforms could be requesting data they do not need outside of selling it for profit or using it to advertise. If they say they need the data to operate but don't, that's a different situation. At the moment, there are cases of such platforms having to request access to specific data, like Twitter requesting certain data that you can opt out of.

It's hard as an outsider in the current environment to know if the data that's being collected is actually required or if it's just being used in surveillance capitalism.

I guess that transparency on the companies part would help solve this too. But it might also be solved by those in power being required to have all financial information being on the immutable ledger.