trias-project / unified-checklist

🇧🇪 Global Register of Introduced and Invasive Species - Belgium
https://trias-project.github.io/unified-checklist/
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Only include species #35

Closed peterdesmet closed 4 years ago

peterdesmet commented 5 years ago

The checklist currently contains:

taxonRank taxa
GENUS 11
SPECIES 2399
SUBSPECIES 101
VARIETY 18

For a unified checklist, I think it makes sense to aggregate this information on SPECIES only, because:

This would only affect 5% of the taxa (i.e. the non-SPECIES):

I've created a spreadsheet of the taxa that are affected.

@timadriaens @SoVDH @qgroom would you be OK with this choice?

timadriaens commented 5 years ago

It is probably mostly relevant for plants as is clear from the spreadsheet, where cultivars/subspecies can differ in invasiveness.

As we discussed yesterday, I am ok with that provided it is performed in the flow to the unified (so kept in the original checklist) and it is documented. Genus level PRA's are indeed not acceptable in practice.

I checked all non-manual issues:

peterdesmet commented 5 years ago

Thanks Tim! Ludwigia (peploides), Olios (argelasius), Pholcus (opilionoides) have representative species, but not all (spider) genera. I created an issue for this in the ad hoc list: https://github.com/trias-project/ad-hoc-checklist/issues/33

SoVDH commented 5 years ago

Thinking about it ... Am wondering whether it is better to aggregating variety/cultivar/subspecies to species level or rather discarding them from the unified checklist if you have a problem with keeping sub-species levels. The reason for having sub-species levels for plants is that not all varieties behave the same way. This means if you aggregate up to species level, you mean all other potential varieties and subspecies are also present and/or established, which is sometimes wrong or sometimes unknown. So, personally, I would either discard them for now from he unified checklist or keep them as sub-species but NOT aggregating to species level.

This is a feedback from Quentin and Sonia from Zagreb

peterdesmet commented 5 years ago

Leaving subspecies in will be challenging, because the ideal way to search or filter for occurrences on GBIF is by speciesKey: that key includes all sublevels and all synonyms for a taxon, which is what we want. Example: Reynoutria japonica: https://www.gbif.org/species/2889173 also looks for 42 (!) synonyms and 2 varieties. It's very hard to do this otherwise.

Not aggregating them is a hard choice too, because it means they will never be considered for any analyses or emerging species, except those where the SPECIES is also listed in one of the source checklists (e.g. both Panicum miliaceum L. and Panicum miliaceum subsp. miliaceum are listed). It also throws away subspecies for animals.

I suggest we add SUBSPECIES to the list of taxa to verify, with the suggestion to lump under the species. There we can - for each taxon - decide if we want to lump them or not. By default (i.e. unverified) they will not be included. It then becomes a deliberate choice and we are aware of what we are throwing away.

Would that be OK?

peterdesmet commented 5 years ago

It basically boils down to: how big is the net you want to use for searching occurrences. In the result set you will still be able to see what subspecies/synonyms are included.

qgroom commented 5 years ago

It's a bit more than that. At least for plants we will get completely the wrong results if we model using the species data, rather than the subspecies data.

All these have alien supspecies and common native subspecies. If we select at the species level most of the records will be for the native taxon.

Armeria maritima subsp. elongata Equisetum hyemale Cornus sanguinea subsp. australis Reseda lutea subsp. vivantii Hippophae rhamnoides subsp. caucasica Rousi Sedum telephium subsp. maximum Matricaria recutita var. coronata Phalaris arundinacea var. picta L. Aira caryophyllea subsp. plesiantha (Jord.) K.Richt. Pastinaca sativa subsp. urens (Req. ex Godr.) ÄŒelak. Lamium galeobdolon subsp. argentatum (Smejkal) J.Duvigneaud

and many more I suspect

damianooldoni commented 4 years ago

So, I think we solved this. The answer is: no, we need infraspecific ones in unified checklist. Issue to be closed?

peterdesmet commented 4 years ago

Yes, thanks for cleaning up issues @damianooldoni.