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Decoupling organisation of Try Harder from stray
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Web Presence #5

Open neilmanuell opened 10 years ago

neilmanuell commented 10 years ago

So I would be good to fill out the web site with bios of the Illuminati and such like. Also to make sure that Flash is just one of the many technologies mentioned...

tam203 commented 10 years ago

Agreed. What about stories, rather than or as well as bio's of what try{harder} is to them?

Stray commented 10 years ago

+1 for that.

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neilmanuell commented 10 years ago

@tam203 I've got a few write ups here and here on my webpage, that I'm happy for you too use... though they may have been used to death. I'll see if I can think up another story.

tam203 commented 10 years ago

OK. I'll take this one. I'll be in touch when I've worked out my plans.

tam203 commented 10 years ago

@neilmanuell great. I think some blog links is a good idea. Might extract a sound but our two too.

neilmanuell commented 10 years ago

@mikecann and @richardlord have written posts too and I think @DavidArno

richardlord commented 10 years ago

This was my blog post - http://www.richardlord.net/blog/tryharder-level-up

tam203 commented 10 years ago

@richardlord Thanks.

@Stray I think you shared the website log on details once but I've lost them. Can you mail them over?

neilmanuell commented 10 years ago

@tam203 has @Stray got you those details?

tam203 commented 10 years ago

@neilmanuell no net yet.

Stray commented 10 years ago

Hi, sorry - will get them to you today Theo.

Stray

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tam203 commented 10 years ago

This is what I'm thinking about the website:

  1. More bio's - If your not on here (http://www.tryharder.org.uk/alumni/) send a short bio and picture and I'll put you on.
  2. Scrap mentor/alumni distinction? If we are keeping it then someone will need to tell me who is who as I'm always to impressed by everyone to tell the difference
  3. Add a try {harder} stories section with snipits and links to all of all the blogs etc.
  4. Get rid of the blog section (only has one story), keep the content and link to from the stories section above.
  5. Update "Attend 'Level-up' 2013" to 2014 - @Stray do you have the source image (http://src.sencha.io/http://www.tryharder.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Screen-Shot-2013-02-13-at-13.54.00.png) - so I can do a 2014 version?
  6. For now remove references to cost. Unless we are sure of the cost?
neilmanuell commented 10 years ago

I think @Stray needs to answer 2 - my tuppence though - I think we can scrap the mentors, and when we do a level up in the future we can have a page explicitly for that event indicating the mentors.

If we have only one blog post, I agree it should go.

6) probably good idea to remove cost until it is finalised - @Stray can we help you with that in anyway?

Stray commented 10 years ago

+1 for all that.

Will seek out source image - think I probably did it in flash (oddly).

Aye - Mentor/Alumni was only about identifying who was mentoring at the 1st Level Up. Alumni sounds a bit wanky now I think, maybe just Members? What do folk think?

On the blog section - we were planning on blogging regularly by having a rota... but for now yup, just remove it.

I need to do a head count and work out costs... so yes, just remove refs for now.

Sx

On 27 May 2014, at 20:12, neil manuell notifications@github.com wrote:

I think @Stray needs to answer 2 - my tuppence though - I think we can scrap the mentors, and when we do a level up in the future we can have a page explicitly for that event indicating the mentors.

If we have only one blog post, I agree it should go.

6) probably good idea to remove cost until it is finalised - @Stray can we help you with that in anyway?

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redannick commented 10 years ago

I wonder if listing the members actually makes it all seem rather exclusive, which might be intimidating for prospective attendees. Especially people landing on the site without knowing any of us. Those who do know us will undoubtedly know our enthusiasm for the event already.

Perhaps just testimonials?

Robin

On 28/05/2014 15:40, Stray wrote:

+1 for all that.

Will seek out source image - think I probably did it in flash (oddly).

Aye - Mentor/Alumni was only about identifying who was mentoring at the 1st Level Up. Alumni sounds a bit wanky now I think, maybe just Members? What do folk think?

On the blog section - we were planning on blogging regularly by having a rota... but for now yup, just remove it.

I need to do a head count and work out costs... so yes, just remove refs for now.

Sx

On 27 May 2014, at 20:12, neil manuell notifications@github.com wrote:

I think @Stray needs to answer 2 - my tuppence though - I think we can scrap the mentors, and when we do a level up in the future we can have a page explicitly for that event indicating the mentors.

If we have only one blog post, I agree it should go.

6) probably good idea to remove cost until it is finalised - @Stray can we help you with that in anyway?

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Stray commented 10 years ago

I see what you mean.

Kind of depends what try harder is I suppose? We'd talked about running it essentially as a closed group, but with a little fresh blood from time to time. Briefly Level Up looked like something that might be worth doing for money, but it actually just ran at a loss.

To be honest I can't imagine anyone truly outside our circles attending... I'd be nervous of them not getting it, and this time I'm not even sure we need to acquire new people at that rate?

If 8 - 12 of us re-attend and we add 2 to 4 people via contacts each time then that's about the right numbers.

So - I think 'exclusive' is kind of ok - not in a better-than-you way, but in an attachment way, that it's not just a buy-a-ticket-and-turn-up kind of thing?

And the idea was that we were kind of the attraction, but perhaps that's dying away now that we're not so AS3 focussed?

What do people think?

Sx

On 28 May 2014, at 15:46, redannick notifications@github.com wrote:

I wonder if listing the members actually makes it all seem rather exclusive, which might be intimidating for prospective attendees. Especially people landing on the site without knowing any of us. Those who do know us will undoubtedly know our enthusiasm for the event already.

Perhaps just testimonials?

Robin

On 28/05/2014 15:40, Stray wrote:

+1 for all that.

Will seek out source image - think I probably did it in flash (oddly).

Aye - Mentor/Alumni was only about identifying who was mentoring at the 1st Level Up. Alumni sounds a bit wanky now I think, maybe just Members? What do folk think?

On the blog section - we were planning on blogging regularly by having a rota... but for now yup, just remove it.

I need to do a head count and work out costs... so yes, just remove refs for now.

Sx

On 27 May 2014, at 20:12, neil manuell notifications@github.com wrote:

I think @Stray needs to answer 2 - my tuppence though - I think we can scrap the mentors, and when we do a level up in the future we can have a page explicitly for that event indicating the mentors.

If we have only one blog post, I agree it should go.

6) probably good idea to remove cost until it is finalised - @Stray can we help you with that in anyway?

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redannick commented 10 years ago

I think closed group with fresh blood works fine - that's what it's been so far. And that is, by definition, exclusive in the hard-to-get way.

However, what is the web presence there for? If we want to attract even a few people with it, I think it shouldn't look like a closed group, as that might feel more like it's exclusive in a better-than-you way. If the web presence isn't to attract new people, what is it's focus?

Stray commented 10 years ago

Good point.

The web presence is probably an artefact of when Level Up was the thrust.

However - it's useful to be able point people who we personally interest in it, and their bosses, at the website for info.

So - not for googlers, but for people to use for research.

On 28 May 2014, at 17:18, redannick notifications@github.com wrote:

I think closed group with fresh blood works fine - that's what it's been so far. And that is, by definition, exclusive in the hard-to-get way.

However, what is the web presence there for? If we want to attract even a few people with it, I think it shouldn't look like a closed group, as that might feel more like it's exclusive in a better-than-you way. If the web presence isn't to attract new people, what is it's focus?

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dansumption commented 10 years ago

Am I right in thinking that the web presence was also a shopfront for "try {harder} alumni" as a sort of A-Team of Flash development? i.e. not just to promote the conferences, but also "hire us, we're the best".

On 28 May 2014 17:21, Stray notifications@github.com wrote:

Good point.

The web presence is probably an artefact of when Level Up was the thrust.

However - it's useful to be able point people who we personally interest in it, and their bosses, at the website for info.

So - not for googlers, but for people to use for research.

On 28 May 2014, at 17:18, redannick notifications@github.com wrote:

I think closed group with fresh blood works fine - that's what it's been so far. And that is, by definition, exclusive in the hard-to-get way.

However, what is the web presence there for? If we want to attract even a few people with it, I think it shouldn't look like a closed group, as that might feel more like it's exclusive in a better-than-you way. If the web presence isn't to attract new people, what is it's focus?

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Stray commented 10 years ago

Aye. That was the other thought behind it - though we haven't actually used it in that way (?yet).

On 28 May 2014, at 17:25, Dan Sumption notifications@github.com wrote:

Am I right in thinking that the web presence was also a shopfront for "try {harder} alumni" as a sort of A-Team of Flash development? i.e. not just to promote the conferences, but also "hire us, we're the best".

On 28 May 2014 17:21, Stray notifications@github.com wrote:

Good point.

The web presence is probably an artefact of when Level Up was the thrust.

However - it's useful to be able point people who we personally interest in it, and their bosses, at the website for info.

So - not for googlers, but for people to use for research.

On 28 May 2014, at 17:18, redannick notifications@github.com wrote:

I think closed group with fresh blood works fine - that's what it's been so far. And that is, by definition, exclusive in the hard-to-get way.

However, what is the web presence there for? If we want to attract even a few people with it, I think it shouldn't look like a closed group, as that might feel more like it's exclusive in a better-than-you way. If the web presence isn't to attract new people, what is it's focus?

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tam203 commented 10 years ago

Ok, I'll press on roughly as planned. Personally I would like seeing my face next to all these grates.

As to exclusivity I would agree with @redannick that it is exclusive but that's not a bad thing.

What's the point/why? I think having a place to collect the faces and the stories would be nice, Though perhaps GitHub or something more collaborative is better for that?

What is try harder? It's definitely the people, it more than the sum of it's parts and as @neilmanuell says we need to find a way to de-couple it from @Stray or anyone else and perhaps a website, repo, or some other central body helps with that?

Stray commented 10 years ago

Could be the special chars in Wrobel's name?

Can't remember if I bodged that or just ignored them!

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@wrobel221 it's nothing personal but you've temporarily been removed from the site as for some reason you're messing up the formatting. Will get you back on shortly....

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tam203 commented 10 years ago

Turned out it was just his place in the list. It was a css issue. Some Bio's longer than others and so they don't stack right.

Added css fix

portfolio-list div.four.columns:nth-of-type(5){

clear:left; }

On 28 May 2014 22:35, Stray notifications@github.com wrote:

Could be the special chars in Wrobel's name?

Can't remember if I bodged that or just ignored them!

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@wrobel221 it's nothing personal but you've temporarily been removed from the site as for some reason you're messing up the formatting. Will get you back on shortly....

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