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About the conclusion that pressure could be an important motive for suicides #45

Open yuqian919 opened 6 years ago

yuqian919 commented 6 years ago

Thanks for the presentation! After reading your paper, I have some question on the validity of social pressure as an important motive for suicides. Firstly, I am wondering how much proportion of the interviewees think pressure or social frame a major motive of the deaths of their lost ones? Also, how much proportion of the interviewees actually internalized the local frame of suicide and regard suicide as an option for themselves?

Besides, you identify with Gabriel Trade's theory, which emphasized that "ideas about behaviors spread first and in turn facilitate the spread of behaviors". Even if some interviewees appeared to identify with the motives of someone else's deaths, they could be far from committing suicides by themselves. Therefore, the conclusion that social frame or the diffusion and internalization of the lost ones' motives for death can not be proven as motives for death on those who already committed suicide( as you cannot verify with someone who already died). In this sense, reasons for forming motives for death is quite different from reasons for committing suicide. And the data you collect can only account for the former question while they are second-hand evidence for the later question. I am wondering how you think of this? Thank you so much.