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UN Transparency Protocol
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Provide a pattern for enabling suppliers to use the best information they can for the products they are supplying #44

Open zachzeus opened 3 months ago

zachzeus commented 3 months ago

Evidence to support claims in a product passport (or other contracts for sale, etc #43 ) must be available at the time the claims are made. Some types of evidence (e.g. audited/certified records) could be retrospective, and not be available at the point of sale/negotiation, but may be available later in the trade transaction lifecycle. For example; negotiation (prior to transaction), sale (initial transaction), and downstream in the supply chain. Given that different types of evidence are available at different times, how can a buyer use the best information available to set price on ESG values evidenced in the digital supply chain?

monkeypants commented 3 months ago

I think this is about ConformityCredentials. As the model is currently drawn:

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So, the question of "best information available" really comes down to the ConformityAssessments based on the evidence to hand. At a different point in time, when more evidence is available, additional ConformityAssessments might be possible.

It's really buyer's policy to decide how to price different ConformityAssessments, based on their values and the values downstream in their supply chain.

monkeypants commented 3 months ago

Hmm, I think the ConformityEvidence and associated EvidenceFile might need more properties, to manage the temporal ranges. For example, imagine some StandardOrRegulation that stipulates a heuristic for calculating the ConformityMetric.

That's a plausible heuristic for combining different kinds of evidence into a score. It's just an example of "plausible heuristics", and really it's up to markets and regulators to decide what heuristics are fit for purpose. But the point is:

Currently, ConformityEvidence has multiple EvidenceFiles. If it stays that way, then we probably needs an (optional) temporal scope properties; e.g. date_from and date_until on EvidenceFile. Another way to do it would be to make the relationship between ConformityAssessment:ConformityEvidence into 1:N (rather than 1:1 as it is now), in which case the ConformityEvidence would be the place for the temporal scope attributes.

zachzeus commented 3 months ago

@monkeypants How would a verifier or customer know to combine heuristics?

monkeypants commented 2 months ago

I suppose they will do it in the way that grinds least against their beliefs, or best advantages their negotiations :)

The market will have to assess how it values the heuristics. In some pockets a regulator or industry group may settle on a standard. Demand should swim upstream from the "regulated consumer" end of the supply chain.

Quite possibly, some bespoke heuristics may achieve premium prices because of perceived integrity, superior oversight/intelligence, historic performance, etc.