NES Missing Clone Relationships

[possiblyneal]

Dat

Nintendo - Nintendo Entertainment System (Headered) (20230708-030456) (Retool 2023-07-08 13-24-38) (1,059) [-Bdp]

Issue

Where possible, include URLs to a reputable source as proof, as it helps speed up verification.

• Missed or incorrect title (Europe) > Original title (USA) | https://www.wikipedia.org
• BMX Simulator (Asia) (En) (B-S2) (Unl) > BMX Simulator (World) (Unl)
• Booky Man (Brazil) (En) (Mega Soft) (Unl) & Booky Man (Spain) (En) (NTDEC) (Unl) > Brush Roller (Asia) (En) (Hwang Shinwei) (Unl) | Brush Roller seems to be the closest to the original - Should probably be classified as a pirate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_Trax
• Chinese Checkers (Asia) (En) (60 pin cart) (Unl) > Chinese Checkers (Asia) (En) (72 pin cart) (Unl)
• Cosmos Cop (Asia) (En) (Mega Soft) (Unl) > Cosmos Cop (Europe, Asia) (En) (Caltron) (Unl)
• Destroyer (Asia) (En) (Mega Soft) (Unl) > Destructor, El (Spain) (En) (NTDEC) (Unl) | https://retro.gg/game/el-destructor/868
• Final Combat (Asia) (En) (60 pin cart) (Unl) > Final Combat (Asia) (En) (72 pin cart) (Unl)

[possiblyneal]

Here are additional:

• Time Diver - Avenger (Asia) (En) (T-A1) (Unl) > Time Diver - Eon Man (USA) (Proto) | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Diver:_Eon_Man
• Weilai Xiaozi - Joy Van Kid (Asia) (En) (Unl) > Metal Fighter (Asia) (En) (Sachen) (72 pin cart) (Unl) > Metal Fighter (USA) (Unl) | https://tcrf.net/Metal_Fighter_(NES)
• Crazy Land (USA) (Proto) > Trolls in Crazyland, The (Europe) | https://hiddenpalace.org/Crazy_Land_(Prototype)
• Virus (USA) (Proto) (1990-03-xx) (PC10) [b] > Dr. Mario (Japan, USA) (En) (Rev 1) | https://tcrf.net/Proto:Dr._Mario_(NES)/Virus_1989_%26_1990
• U-Force Power Games (USA) (Proto 2) (NintendoAge) [b] > U-Force Power Games (USA) (Proto 1)
• Sidewinder (Asia) (En) (72 pin cart) (Unl) > Mission Cobra (USA) (Unl) | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Cobra
• Silent Assault (Asia) (En) (72 pin cart) (Unl) > Silent Assault (USA) (Unl)
• Master Chu and the Drunkard Hu (Asia) (En) (72 pin cart) (Unl) > Master Chu and the Drunkard Hu (USA) (Unl)
• HES 6-Pak - Real Player's Pak (Australia) (Unl) > Caltron - 6 in 1 (USA) (Unl) | https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Home_Entertainment_Suppliers
• Corre Benny (Spain) (En) (NTDEC) (Unl) > Go! Benny! (Asia) (En) (Mega Soft) (Unl) | https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Go!_Benny!
• Superman (USA) (Proto) (Sunsoft) > Sunman (Europe) (Proto) | You already have these a P/C relationship however the sunman version is much much farther along than the superman version. Maybe the different regions makes it complex....
• Gluk the Thunder Warrior (Spain) (En) (Micro Genius) (Unl) > Thunder Warrior (Asia) (En) (Micro Genius) (Unl)
• Tanque (Spain) (En) (NTDEC) (Unl) > Tank (Asia) (En) (Caltron) (Unl)

Compilations: Funblaster Pak (Australia) (Unl) | https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Home_Entertainment_Suppliers & https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Twin_Eagle

• Little Red Hood (Australia) (Unl)
• Pipemania (Australia) (Unl)
• Metal Fighter (USA) (Unl)
• Double Strike - Aerial Attack Force (USA) (v1.1) (Unl)

Mindblower Pak (Australia) (Unl) | https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Home_Entertainment_Suppliers

• Magical Mathematics (Asia) (En) (NTSC) (Unl)
• Jackpot (Australia) (Unl)
• Arctic Adventure - Penguin & Seal (Australia) (Unl)
• Galactic Crusader (USA) (Unl)

Total Funpak (Australia) (Unl) | https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Home_Entertainment_Suppliers

• Pac-Man (USA) (Tengen)
• Sidewinder (Asia) (En) (72 pin cart) (Unl)
• Othello (Australia) (HES) (Unl)
• Duck Maze (Australia) (Unl)

Super Cartridge Ver 7 - 4 in 1 (Asia) (En) (Unl) | https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Cartridge_(Sachen)

• Sidewinder (Asia) (En) (72 pin cart) (Unl)
• Happy Pairs (Asia) (En) (72 pin cart) (Unl)
• Silver Eagle (Asia) (En) (72 pin cart) (Unl)
• Tasac (Asia) (En) (Unl)

Super Cartridge Ver 9 - 3 in 1 (Asia) (En) (Unl) | https://bootleggames.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Cartridge_(Sachen)

• Challenge of the Dragon (Asia) (En) (Sachen) (Unl)
• Rockball (Asia) (En) (Unl)
• Popo Team (Asia) (En) (Unl)

[unexpectedpanda]

This is due to me not having time to update the clone lists for a while, and No-Intro flooding their sets with unlicensed and pirate titles. I really wish they would separate the bootlegs out into their own thing, they're a nightmare to manage.

Thanks for the leads, I'll look into these when I can.

[possiblyneal]

Its surprising how much 30 - 40 year old software is still being found. By default the no-intro dat-o-matic doesn't include pirate/bootlegs for the NES dats, I wouldn't put much effort into those. Unlicensed is selected by default, but there are many great unlicensed titles for the NES, it would be hard to consider a collection complete without them. And no expectations on timeline, I'm just happy you have put this software out here for all to enjoy.

Also, out of curiosity do you forward this stuff to no-intro so they can amend their p/c list?

[unexpectedpanda]

This is finally done. Woo, what a mess they've turned this DAT into.

Superman (USA) (Proto) (Sunsoft) > Sunman (Europe) (Proto) | You already have these a P/C relationship however the sunman version is much much farther along than the superman version. Maybe the different regions makes it complex....

That's one of the benefits of supersets. As long as the titles support the same language, we can hoist one region above another if it's more appealing. Sunman is now a superset of Superman (Sunsoft).

Also, out of curiosity do you forward this stuff to no-intro so they can amend their p/c list?

Not usually. They're not quite a 1:1 mapping in the way they work, and it's more overhead when updating for me to report it.