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Virtual Forum - Sessions 6-7 (01.12.20, 04.12.20) #53

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Two weeks before

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15:50 meet & greet 16:00 forum introduction, Zoom tips (send chat message), introduce presenter 16:05 project demo 16:20 Q&A 16:25 feedback poll 16:30 introduce presenter 16:35 presentation 16:50 response 16:55 follow-up 17:00 general discussion 17:25 feedback poll

Timeline 4.12.

15:50 meet & greet 16:00 forum introduction, Zoom tips (send chat message), introduce presenter 16:05 presentation 1 16:20 response 16:25 follow-up 16:30 general discussion 16:55 feedback poll 17:00 introduce presenter 17:05 presentation 2 17:20 response 17:25 follow-up 17:30 general discussion 17:55 feedback poll

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Dear All,

Our Virtual Forum series starts December off with a bang! This coming Tuesday (Dec. 1) we'll be hearing a project demo from Isabel Grimm-Stadelmann about Byzantine transcultural medical history and a research paper discussion from Robert Alessi on teaching and learning in the Ayyūbid and Mamlūk eras. This will be followed on Friday (Dec. 4) by research paper discussions from Andrea Bellettato and Joachim Jakob on Syriac responses to Islam. You can register now for both sessions, to read and comment on the papers that will be discussed during the live Zoom session. The full program of the virtual forum Jews, Christians, and Muslims as Colleagues and Collaborators in the Abbasid Near East is at https://usaybia.net/forum2020.

Here's the info for Tuesday.

The Actuarios Johannes Zacharias (14th-Cent.) and His Treatise about the Psychical Pneuma: Critical Edition and its Contextualisation within Transcultural Medical History

Tuesday, December 1

16:00 Project Demo

The Actuarios Johannes Zacharias (14th-Cent.) and His Treatise about the Psychical Pneuma: Critical Edition and its Contextualisation within Transcultural Medical History

Event info and registration: https://usaybia.net/forum2020#11-grimm-stadelmann

Isabel Grimm-Stadelmann Bavarian Academy of Sciences

Being an Actuarios, Johannes Zacharias was a high-ranked physician in a transcultural Byzantine surrounding, characterised by a highly developed hospital culture. Within this setting the therapeutical dialogue between Byzantine physicians and their Jewish, Arabic and Latin colleagues was widespread and of great importance for the continuous evaluation of therapeutical concepts and the relevant medical literature. The manuscripts transmitting Johannes' treatise provide interesting insights into this process.

Isabel Grimm-Stadelmann (Ph.D., PD Dr. Habil.) is a researcher at the Bavarian Academy of Sciences, where she focuses on the critical edition of the late-Byzantine Aktuarios Ioannes Zacharias’ treatise on the psychical pneuma.

Teaching and Learning by the Book at the Turning Point Between the Ayyūbid and Mamlūk Eras as a Source of Information on Methods and Scientific Controversies

Tuesday, December 1

16:30 Paper Discussion

Teaching and Learning by the Book at the Turning Point Between the Ayyūbid and Mamlūk Eras as a Source of Information on Methods and Scientific Controversies

Event info and registration: https://usaybia.net/forum2020#12-alessi

Robert Alessi Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique

Islamic medicine certainly inherited a refined tradition from Greek medicine, but also has seen an important shift in medical training. First, the structures radically changed: they went from an era where medicine passed on from father to son, or where being the disciple of a master was very much like becoming part of his family—to an era where several types of medical training coexisted: from father to son, by teaching oneself (viz. by reading handbooks) or by resorting to the master through classes in hospitals or medical schools. Obviously, the first two ways must be taken into consideration for approaching properly how the sources spread into the Arabic world and how they were handled by scholars, many of them were travellers and collectors of books. Nevertheless, the latter, to which one must add discussions between trained physicians, gives us a lively and vivid insight into the way Arabic medicine evolved through debates between prominent figures.

In this respect, in connection with the transmission of medical art and the handbooks, of great interest are the issues related to the religious affiliation of the physicians, either Christians, Jews or Muslims, at the turning point between the Ayyūbid and the Mamlūk eras (in the XIIIth century AD) between Damascus and Cairo, for they all did refer to Greek sources, but in different ways. On this account, of particular interest are the literary patterns that are used to put on stage these controversies as they may rely on traditions already found centuries ago, in authors such as al-Jāḥiẓ or al-Tawḥīdī.

We will try to explore the most significant examples provided by Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿah, some of which deal with teaching, others with research, showing active discussions between physicians, regardless of religion, facilitated by the sultan himself who provided a special place at his residence to be used as a majlis for research. Surely, depending on whether they were Muslims, Jews or Christians, the social positions they held were different, but also complementary as they had different access to the sources. Even the most prominent Muslim physicians had to rely on colleagues who could recall Galenic sources word for word. This point explains to a large extent the faithfulness of the text preserved in Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿah to the Greek sources.

Robert Alessi is a researcher affiliated with the French Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (UMR 8167, Orient & Méditerranée, Paris-Sorbonne, France). His area of research is Greek and Arabic medicine, particularly the transmission of medical knowledge and the formation of the physicians.

How it works

The virtual forum is conceived as an opportunity to discuss the state of research on interreligious knowledge exchange. Half-hour project demos will showcase ongoing projects in the area, while one-hour research paper discussions are a chance to interact on a deeper level with researchers who are in the process of formulating approaches to the subject.

All times are Central European Time (CET). Logistical support has been provided by Usaybia.net team members Vanessa Birkhahn and Malinda Tolay.

Background

From the eighth century to the thirteenth century and beyond, scholars in the Abbasid and neighboring realms pioneered study in medicine, mathematics, the astral arts, and many other disciplines. Scholarly treatises from that era together with biographical sources such as Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿa's History of Physicians and documentary texts from the Cairo Genizah show that this scholarly activity was not isolated to a single community. Instead, it emerged from a rich exchange between scholars affiliated with many different communities: Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Samaritan, and others. Sometimes this exchange occurred through books or letters while at other times it was face-to-face in formal, institutional settings, side-by-side in the workplace, or even mediated through patrons, servants, or family members.

In the framework of the project “Communities of Knowledge” (funded by the German Federal Ministry of Education and Research), we are hosting a series of discussions on the topic of person-to-person knowledge exchange among Near Eastern communities during Abbasid rule.

All best,

(on behalf of) Nathan Gibson

Nathan P. Gibson, Ph.D. Principal Investigator, Communities of Knowledge/Wissensgemeinschaften (usaybia.net) Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München Institut für den Nahen und Mittleren Osten

Associated Projects: Syriaca.org, Biblia Arabica

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Title: Johannes Zacharias and 13th-Cent. Teaching & Learning (Live Discussions, Virtual Forum) Type: Event Country: Germany Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2020

Contact Info Nathan P. Gibson, Ph.D. Principal Investigator, Communities of Knowledge/Wissensgemeinschaften (usaybia.net) Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München Institut für den Nahen und Mittleren Osten

Associated Projects: Syriaca.org, Biblia Arabica

Contact Email: [mine] URL: https://usaybia.net/forum2020 Announcement Description: Copy and paste the below with formatting:

Register now for the Tuesday, December 1, 2020 presentations by Isabel Grimm-Stadelmann and Robert Alessi for the virtual forum Jews, Christians, and Muslims as Colleagues and Collaborators in the Abbasid Near East. Please also note the upcoming session on Friday, December 4, where Andrea Bellettato and Joachim Jakob will discuss Syriac responses to Islam.

Tuesday, December 1

16:00 Project Demo

The Actuarios Johannes Zacharias (14th-Cent.) and His Treatise about the Psychical Pneuma: Critical Edition and its Contextualisation within Transcultural Medical History

Isabel Grimm-Stadelmann (Bavarian Academy of Sciences)

Being an Actuarios, Johannes Zacharias was a high-ranked physician in a transcultural Byzantine surrounding, characterised by a highly developed hospital culture. Within this setting the therapeutical dialogue between Byzantine physicians and their Jewish, Arabic and Latin colleagues was widespread and of great importance for the continuous evaluation of therapeutical concepts and the relevant medical literature. read more

16:30 Paper Discussion

Teaching and Learning by the Book at the Turning Point Between the Ayyūbid and Mamlūk Eras as a Source of Information on Methods and Scientific Controversies

Robert Alessi (Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique)

Islamic medicine certainly inherited a refined tradition from Greek medicine, but also has seen an important shift in medical training. First, the structures radically changed: they went from an era where medicine passed on from father to son, or where being the disciple of a master was very much like becoming part of his family—to an era where several types of medical training coexisted: from father to son, by teaching oneself (viz. by reading handbooks) or by resorting to the master through classes in hospitals or medical schools. read more

Subject Fields: Intellectual History, Islamic History / Studies, Middle East History / Studies, Jewish History / Studies, Medieval and Byzantine History / Studies

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    • Event Name: Project Demo: Isabel Grimm-Stadelmann, Johannes Zacharias Critical Edition (Virtual Forum)
    • Start Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2020
    • Start Time: 16:00
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THE ACTUARIOS JOHANNES ZACHARIAS (14TH-CENT.) AND HIS TREATISE ABOUT THE PSYCHICAL PNEUMA: CRITICAL EDITION AND ITS CONTEXTUALISATION WITHIN TRANSCULTURAL MEDICAL HISTORY Isabel Grimm-Stadelmann Bavarian Academy of Sciences

Being an Actuarios, Johannes Zacharias was a high-ranked physician in a transcultural Byzantine surrounding, characterised by a highly developed hospital culture. Within this setting the therapeutical dialogue between Byzantine physicians and their Jewish, Arabic and Latin colleagues was widespread and of great importance for the continuous evaluation of therapeutical concepts and the relevant medical literature. The manuscripts transmitting Johannes' treatise provide interesting insights into this process.

Isabel Grimm-Stadelmann (Ph.D., PD Dr. Habil.) is a researcher at the Bavarian Academy of Sciences, where she focuses on the critical edition of the late-Byzantine Aktuarios Ioannes Zacharias’ treatise on the psychical pneuma.

HOW IT WORKS The virtual forum is conceived as an opportunity to discuss the state of research on interreligious knowledge exchange. Half-hour project demos will showcase ongoing projects in the area, while one-hour research paper discussions are a chance to interact on a deeper level with researchers who are in the process of formulating approaches to the subject.

• Students, academics, and anyone else interested may register by clicking on any of the registration links. This will take you to a Zoom page, where you can select any or all of the nine sessions to attend virtually. The number of Zoom participants for each session is limited to 100. • Registered participants will be sent drafts of research papers to read and comment on ahead of time. We'll use the web tool Hypothes.is to do this collaboratively. You can get a free Hypothes.is account here, and you'll receive an email ahead of the session containing a link to read the paper and another link to join the private Hypothes.is group where you can comment or ask questions. • During the live Zoom sessions, you'll hear two presentations and, for research paper discussions, 1–2 responses from invited participants. The remainder of the time will be open for you to interact with the speaker, so come with questions! • Proceedings: Revised papers from the forum will be submitted to a special issue of medieval worlds: comparative & interdisciplinary studies, a peer-reviewed, open-access journal published by the Austrian Academy of Sciences (ISSN 2412-3196).

All times are Central European Time (CET). Logistical support has been provided by Usaybia.net team members Vanessa Birkhahn and Malinda Tolay.

BACKGROUND From the eighth century to the thirteenth century and beyond, scholars in the Abbasid and neighboring realms pioneered study in medicine, mathematics, the astral arts, and many other disciplines. Scholarly treatises from that era together with biographical sources such as Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿa's History of Physicians and documentary texts from the Cairo Genizah show that this scholarly activity was not isolated to a single community. Instead, it emerged from a rich exchange between scholars affiliated with many different communities: Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Samaritan, and others. Sometimes this exchange occurred through books or letters while at other times it was face-to-face in formal, institutional settings, side-by-side in the workplace, or even mediated through patrons, servants, or family members.

In the framework of the project “Communities of Knowledge” (funded by the German Federal Ministry of Education and Research), we are hosting a series of discussions on the topic of person-to-person knowledge exchange among Near Eastern communities during Abbasid rule.

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    • Event Name: Discussion: Robert Alessi, 13th-Cent. Teaching & Learning (Virtual Forum)
    • Start Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2020
    • Start Time: 16:30
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Co-hosts: (you, me, Ronny Vollandt) Post Permissions: Anyone can post, posts must be approved, people can ask questions, display guest list

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REGISTER: https://lmu-munich.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJIvdemopj0oHN0ucZmJhnM9HB6zMpjzFl2v

FULL PROGRAM: https://usaybia.net/forum2020.

TEACHING AND LEARNING BY THE BOOK AT THE TURNING POINT BETWEEN THE AYYŪBID AND MAMLŪK ERAS AS A SOURCE OF INFORMATION ON METHODS AND SCIENTIFIC CONTROVERSIES Robert Alessi Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique

Islamic medicine certainly inherited a refined tradition from Greek medicine, but also has seen an important shift in medical training. First, the structures radically changed: they went from an era where medicine passed on from father to son, or where being the disciple of a master was very much like becoming part of his family—to an era where several types of medical training coexisted: from father to son, by teaching oneself (viz. by reading handbooks) or by resorting to the master through classes in hospitals or medical schools. Obviously, the first two ways must be taken into consideration for approaching properly how the sources spread into the Arabic world and how they were handled by scholars, many of them were travellers and collectors of books. Nevertheless, the latter, to which one must add discussions between trained physicians, gives us a lively and vivid insight into the way Arabic medicine evolved through debates between prominent figures.

In this respect, in connection with the transmission of medical art and the handbooks, of great interest are the issues related to the religious affiliation of the physicians, either Christians, Jews or Muslims, at the turning point between the Ayyūbid and the Mamlūk eras (in the XIIIth century AD) between Damascus and Cairo, for they all did refer to Greek sources, but in different ways. On this account, of particular interest are the literary patterns that are used to put on stage these controversies as they may rely on traditions already found centuries ago, in authors such as al-Jāḥiẓ or al-Tawḥīdī.

We will try to explore the most significant examples provided by Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿah, some of which deal with teaching, others with research, showing active discussions between physicians, regardless of religion, facilitated by the sultan himself who provided a special place at his residence to be used as a majlis for research. Surely, depending on whether they were Muslims, Jews or Christians, the social positions they held were different, but also complementary as they had different access to the sources. Even the most prominent Muslim physicians had to rely on colleagues who could recall Galenic sources word for word. This point explains to a large extent the faithfulness of the text preserved in Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿah to the Greek sources.

Robert Alessi is a researcher affiliated with the French Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique (UMR 8167, Orient & Méditerranée, Paris-Sorbonne, France). His area of research is Greek and Arabic medicine, particularly the transmission of medical knowledge and the formation of the physicians.

HOW IT WORKS The virtual forum is conceived as an opportunity to discuss the state of research on interreligious knowledge exchange. Half-hour project demos will showcase ongoing projects in the area, while one-hour research paper discussions are a chance to interact on a deeper level with researchers who are in the process of formulating approaches to the subject.

• Students, academics, and anyone else interested may register by clicking on any of the registration links. This will take you to a Zoom page, where you can select any or all of the nine sessions to attend virtually. The number of Zoom participants for each session is limited to 100. • Registered participants will be sent drafts of research papers to read and comment on ahead of time. We'll use the web tool Hypothes.is to do this collaboratively. You can get a free Hypothes.is account here, and you'll receive an email ahead of the session containing a link to read the paper and another link to join the private Hypothes.is group where you can comment or ask questions. • During the live Zoom sessions, you'll hear two presentations and, for research paper discussions, 1–2 responses from invited participants. The remainder of the time will be open for you to interact with the speaker, so come with questions! • Proceedings: Revised papers from the forum will be submitted to a special issue of medieval worlds: comparative & interdisciplinary studies, a peer-reviewed, open-access journal published by the Austrian Academy of Sciences (ISSN 2412-3196).

All times are Central European Time (CET). Logistical support has been provided by Usaybia.net team members Vanessa Birkhahn and Malinda Tolay.

BACKGROUND From the eighth century to the thirteenth century and beyond, scholars in the Abbasid and neighboring realms pioneered study in medicine, mathematics, the astral arts, and many other disciplines. Scholarly treatises from that era together with biographical sources such as Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿa's History of Physicians and documentary texts from the Cairo Genizah show that this scholarly activity was not isolated to a single community. Instead, it emerged from a rich exchange between scholars affiliated with many different communities: Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Samaritan, and others. Sometimes this exchange occurred through books or letters while at other times it was face-to-face in formal, institutional settings, side-by-side in the workplace, or even mediated through patrons, servants, or family members.

In the framework of the project “Communities of Knowledge” (funded by the German Federal Ministry of Education and Research), we are hosting a series of discussions on the topic of person-to-person knowledge exchange among Near Eastern communities during Abbasid rule.

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Subject: Friday Virtual Forum: Syriac Responses to Islam

Dear All,

Coming quickly on the heels of our last session, here's a reminder that you're invited to register for this Friday's (Dec. 4) research paper discussions by Andrea Bellettato and Joachim Jakob on Syriac responses to Islam. After registering, you'll be able to read and comment on the papers that will be discussed during the live Zoom session.

Also, note this coming Tuesday's project demo (Embedding Conquest, Cecilia Palombo and Ed Hayes) and research paper discussion (Ḥanpā as a Legal Category, Jessica Mutter). See https://usaybia.net/forum2020 for the full program of the virtual forum Jews, Christians, and Muslims as Colleagues and Collaborators in the Abbasid Near East (through December 11).

Talking with Enemies, Writing to Friends: Timothy I and the Construction of an Eastern Christian Response to Islam

Friday, December 4

16:00 Paper Discussion

Talking with Enemies, Writing to Friends: Timothy I and the Construction of an Eastern Christian Response to Islam

Event info and registration: https://usaybia.net/forum2020#13-bellettato

Andrea Bellettato Ca’ Foscari University of Venice and Hebrew University of Jerusalem

Timothy I (ca. 740-823 CE/AH 122-208) was katholikos of the Church of the East for more than forty years between the end of the 8th and the beginning of the 9th century (ca. 780-823/AH 164-208). During this time, he moved the seat of the patriarchate to Baghdad, where he entertained close relationships with the Abbasid court. A number of his surviving letters, written in Syriac, attest to this. In particular, two letter-treatises of considerable length relate encounters Timothy had with a Muslim Aristotelian philosopher (letter 40) and with caliph Al-Mahdi himself (letter 59). These letters document an intense theological debate that took place between Christians and Muslims at the court, one that used Aristotelian logic as a sort of shared language in order to discuss urgent religious and philosophical matters. While scholars have paid much attention to this material, there remains to be studied how Timothy modulated his explanations according to the intended audience. My paper aims to analyse how Timothy managed to express his beliefs in different ways depending on different occasions. Far from being a faithful reflection of the dialogues that took place at the caliph’s court, I maintain that Timothy’s letters are carefully planned literary products that served a double purpose. On the one hand, they conveyed a climate of peaceful and productive exchange with Muslim scholars and sovereigns, but on the other, they played the crucial role of providing other Christians with a ready-made set of answers to some of the thorniest questions and objections that their Muslim counterparts could pose to them. By extending the view to those letters (esp. 34-6) that were aimed solely at an internal, Christian audience, I will show how this process of reader-oriented variation occurred and I will attempt to reconstruct Timothy’s preoccupations as Head of the eastern Church.

Andrea Bellettato is currently a second-year PhD candidate in a joint programme at the University of Venice Ca’ Foscari and at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

Muslim Theology in Christian Apologetic Texts of Syriac Authors from the 8th and 9th Centuries

Friday, December 4

17:00 Paper Discussion

Muslim Theology in Christian Apologetic Texts of Syriac Authors from the 8th and 9th Centuries

Event info and registration: https://usaybia.net/forum2020#14-jakob

Joachim Jakob Catholic Diocese of Linz

The paper analyzes theological texts by Patriarch Timothy I (letters 40 and 59) and Nonnus of Nisibis (“The Apologetic Treatise”) written in Syriac during the 8th and 9th centuries. These Christian authors aimed to defend their Christian faith against Muslim objections against Christianity. In doing so, Timothy and Nonnus seemed to be well aware of the Islamic theology of their period. The paper compares Timothy’s and Nonnus’ reasoning to defend the Christian doctrines of the Trinity and Christology with contemporary Muslim (especially Muʿtazilite) thought. Although the textual material of the Muʿtazilite thinkers from the 8th and 9th centuries which has come down to us is rather scanty, it is possible to identify references to certain Muʿtazilite thinkers or to particular Muslim doctrines in the texts written by Timothy and Nonnus. The paper outlines these references to contemporary Muslim thought in more detail than previous research has done. Thus, it demonstrates that Christians and Muslims were not just religious counterparts during the ʿAbbāsid period. Instead, even religious disputation texts show that its Christian authors had an intimate knowledge of the Muslim theology of their period and must have been in close contact with their Muslim colleagues.

Joachim Jakob is an expert in the historical relations between the three monotheistic faiths (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam), especially in the Middle East.

How it works

The virtual forum is conceived as an opportunity to discuss the state of research on interreligious knowledge exchange. Half-hour project demos will showcase ongoing projects in the area, while one-hour research paper discussions are a chance to interact on a deeper level with researchers who are in the process of formulating approaches to the subject.

All times are Central European Time (CET). Logistical support has been provided by Usaybia.net team members Vanessa Birkhahn and Malinda Tolay.

Background

From the eighth century to the thirteenth century and beyond, scholars in the Abbasid and neighboring realms pioneered study in medicine, mathematics, the astral arts, and many other disciplines. Scholarly treatises from that era together with biographical sources such as Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿa's History of Physicians and documentary texts from the Cairo Genizah show that this scholarly activity was not isolated to a single community. Instead, it emerged from a rich exchange between scholars affiliated with many different communities: Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Samaritan, and others. Sometimes this exchange occurred through books or letters while at other times it was face-to-face in formal, institutional settings, side-by-side in the workplace, or even mediated through patrons, servants, or family members.

In the framework of the project “Communities of Knowledge” (funded by the German Federal Ministry of Education and Research), we are hosting a series of discussions on the topic of person-to-person knowledge exchange among Near Eastern communities during Abbasid rule.

All best,

(on behalf of) Nathan Gibson

Nathan P. Gibson, Ph.D. Principal Investigator, Communities of Knowledge/Wissensgemeinschaften (usaybia.net) Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München Institut für den Nahen und Mittleren Osten

Associated Projects: Syriaca.org, Biblia Arabica

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Title: Timothy I to Enemies and Friends / 8th-9th Cent. Syriac Apologetic (Live Discussions, Virtual Forum) Type: Event Country: Germany Date: Friday, December 4, 2020

Contact Info Nathan P. Gibson, Ph.D. Principal Investigator, Communities of Knowledge/Wissensgemeinschaften (usaybia.net) Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München Institut für den Nahen und Mittleren Osten

Associated Projects: Syriaca.org, Biblia Arabica

Contact Email: [mine] URL: https://usaybia.net/forum2020 Announcement Description: Copy and paste the below with formatting:

Register now for the Friday, December 4, 2020 research paper discussions by Andrea Bellettato and Joachim Jakob for the virtual forum Jews, Christians, and Muslims as Colleagues and Collaborators in the Abbasid Near East.

Friday, December 4

16:00 Paper Discussion

Talking with Enemies, Writing to Friends: Timothy I and the Construction of an Eastern Christian Response to Islam

Andrea Bellettato (Ca’ Foscari University of Venice and Hebrew University of Jerusalem)

Timothy I (ca. 740-823 CE/AH 122-208) was katholikos of the Church of the East for more than forty years between the end of the 8th and the beginning of the 9th century (ca. 780-823/AH 164-208). During this time, he moved the seat of the patriarchate to Baghdad, where he entertained close relationships with the Abbasid court. A number of his surviving letters, written in Syriac, attest to this. In particular, two letter-treatises of considerable length relate encounters Timothy had with a Muslim Aristotelian philosopher (letter 40) and with caliph Al-Mahdi himself (letter 59). read more

17:00 Paper Discussion

Muslim Theology in Christian Apologetic Texts of Syriac Authors from the 8th and 9th Centuries

Joachim Jakob (Catholic Diocese of Linz)

The paper analyzes theological texts by Patriarch Timothy I (letters 40 and 59) and Nonnus of Nisibis (“The Apologetic Treatise”) written in Syriac during the 8th and 9th centuries. These Christian authors aimed to defend their Christian faith against Muslim objections against Christianity. In doing so, Timothy and Nonnus seemed to be well aware of the Islamic theology of their period. The paper compares Timothy’s and Nonnus’ reasoning to defend the Christian doctrines of the Trinity and Christology with contemporary Muslim (especially Muʿtazilite) thought. read more

Subject Fields: Intellectual History, Islamic History / Studies, Middle East History / Studies, Jewish History / Studies, Medieval and Byzantine History / Studies

nathangibson commented 3 years ago

Event 3 for Facebook (@vanessa612) (please post on 27.11.)

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    • Event Name: Discussion: Andrea Bellettato, Timothy I to Enemies and Friends (Virtual Forum)
    • Start Date: Friday, December 4, 2020
    • Start Time: 16:00
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Co-hosts: (you, me, Ronny Vollandt) Post Permissions: Anyone can post, posts must be approved, people can ask questions, display guest list

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REGISTER: https://lmu-munich.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJIvdemopj0oHN0ucZmJhnM9HB6zMpjzFl2v

FULL PROGRAM: https://usaybia.net/forum2020.

TALKING WITH ENEMIES, WRITING TO FRIENDS: TIMOTHY I AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN EASTERN CHRISTIAN RESPONSE TO ISLAM Andrea Bellettato Ca’ Foscari University of Venice and Hebrew University of Jerusalem

Timothy I (ca. 740-823 CE/AH 122-208) was katholikos of the Church of the East for more than forty years between the end of the 8th and the beginning of the 9th century (ca. 780-823/AH 164-208). During this time, he moved the seat of the patriarchate to Baghdad, where he entertained close relationships with the Abbasid court. A number of his surviving letters, written in Syriac, attest to this. In particular, two letter-treatises of considerable length relate encounters Timothy had with a Muslim Aristotelian philosopher (letter 40) and with caliph Al-Mahdi himself (letter 59). These letters document an intense theological debate that took place between Christians and Muslims at the court, one that used Aristotelian logic as a sort of shared language in order to discuss urgent religious and philosophical matters. While scholars have paid much attention to this material, there remains to be studied how Timothy modulated his explanations according to the intended audience. My paper aims to analyse how Timothy managed to express his beliefs in different ways depending on different occasions. Far from being a faithful reflection of the dialogues that took place at the caliph’s court, I maintain that Timothy’s letters are carefully planned literary products that served a double purpose. On the one hand, they conveyed a climate of peaceful and productive exchange with Muslim scholars and sovereigns, but on the other, they played the crucial role of providing other Christians with a ready-made set of answers to some of the thorniest questions and objections that their Muslim counterparts could pose to them. By extending the view to those letters (esp. 34-6) that were aimed solely at an internal, Christian audience, I will show how this process of reader-oriented variation occurred and I will attempt to reconstruct Timothy’s preoccupations as Head of the eastern Church.

Andrea Bellettato is currently a second-year PhD candidate in a joint programme at the University of Venice Ca’ Foscari and at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

HOW IT WORKS The virtual forum is conceived as an opportunity to discuss the state of research on interreligious knowledge exchange. Half-hour project demos will showcase ongoing projects in the area, while one-hour research paper discussions are a chance to interact on a deeper level with researchers who are in the process of formulating approaches to the subject.

• Students, academics, and anyone else interested may register by clicking on any of the registration links. This will take you to a Zoom page, where you can select any or all of the nine sessions to attend virtually. The number of Zoom participants for each session is limited to 100. • Registered participants will be sent drafts of research papers to read and comment on ahead of time. We'll use the web tool Hypothes.is to do this collaboratively. You can get a free Hypothes.is account here, and you'll receive an email ahead of the session containing a link to read the paper and another link to join the private Hypothes.is group where you can comment or ask questions. • During the live Zoom sessions, you'll hear two presentations and, for research paper discussions, 1–2 responses from invited participants. The remainder of the time will be open for you to interact with the speaker, so come with questions! • Proceedings: Revised papers from the forum will be submitted to a special issue of medieval worlds: comparative & interdisciplinary studies, a peer-reviewed, open-access journal published by the Austrian Academy of Sciences (ISSN 2412-3196).

All times are Central European Time (CET). Logistical support has been provided by Usaybia.net team members Vanessa Birkhahn and Malinda Tolay.

BACKGROUND From the eighth century to the thirteenth century and beyond, scholars in the Abbasid and neighboring realms pioneered study in medicine, mathematics, the astral arts, and many other disciplines. Scholarly treatises from that era together with biographical sources such as Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿa's History of Physicians and documentary texts from the Cairo Genizah show that this scholarly activity was not isolated to a single community. Instead, it emerged from a rich exchange between scholars affiliated with many different communities: Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Samaritan, and others. Sometimes this exchange occurred through books or letters while at other times it was face-to-face in formal, institutional settings, side-by-side in the workplace, or even mediated through patrons, servants, or family members.

In the framework of the project “Communities of Knowledge” (funded by the German Federal Ministry of Education and Research), we are hosting a series of discussions on the topic of person-to-person knowledge exchange among Near Eastern communities during Abbasid rule.

nathangibson commented 3 years ago

Event 4 for Facebook (@vanessa612) (please post on 27.11.)

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    • Event Name: Discussion: Joachim Jakob, 8th-9th Cent. Syriac Apologetic (Virtual Forum)
    • Start Date: Friday, December 4, 2020
    • Start Time: 17:00
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Co-hosts: (you, me, Ronny Vollandt) Post Permissions: Anyone can post, posts must be approved, people can ask questions, display guest list

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REGISTER: https://lmu-munich.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJIvdemopj0oHN0ucZmJhnM9HB6zMpjzFl2v

FULL PROGRAM: https://usaybia.net/forum2020.

MUSLIM THEOLOGY IN CHRISTIAN APOLOGETIC TEXTS OF SYRIAC AUTHORS FROM THE 8TH AND 9TH CENTURIES Joachim Jakob Catholic Diocese of Linz

The paper analyzes theological texts by Patriarch Timothy I (letters 40 and 59) and Nonnus of Nisibis (“The Apologetic Treatise”) written in Syriac during the 8th and 9th centuries. These Christian authors aimed to defend their Christian faith against Muslim objections against Christianity. In doing so, Timothy and Nonnus seemed to be well aware of the Islamic theology of their period. The paper compares Timothy’s and Nonnus’ reasoning to defend the Christian doctrines of the Trinity and Christology with contemporary Muslim (especially Muʿtazilite) thought. Although the textual material of the Muʿtazilite thinkers from the 8th and 9th centuries which has come down to us is rather scanty, it is possible to identify references to certain Muʿtazilite thinkers or to particular Muslim doctrines in the texts written by Timothy and Nonnus. The paper outlines these references to contemporary Muslim thought in more detail than previous research has done. Thus, it demonstrates that Christians and Muslims were not just religious counterparts during the ʿAbbāsid period. Instead, even religious disputation texts show that its Christian authors had an intimate knowledge of the Muslim theology of their period and must have been in close contact with their Muslim colleagues.

Joachim Jakob is an expert in the historical relations between the three monotheistic faiths (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam), especially in the Middle East.

HOW IT WORKS The virtual forum is conceived as an opportunity to discuss the state of research on interreligious knowledge exchange. Half-hour project demos will showcase ongoing projects in the area, while one-hour research paper discussions are a chance to interact on a deeper level with researchers who are in the process of formulating approaches to the subject.

• Students, academics, and anyone else interested may register by clicking on any of the registration links. This will take you to a Zoom page, where you can select any or all of the nine sessions to attend virtually. The number of Zoom participants for each session is limited to 100. • Registered participants will be sent drafts of research papers to read and comment on ahead of time. We'll use the web tool Hypothes.is to do this collaboratively. You can get a free Hypothes.is account here, and you'll receive an email ahead of the session containing a link to read the paper and another link to join the private Hypothes.is group where you can comment or ask questions. • During the live Zoom sessions, you'll hear two presentations and, for research paper discussions, 1–2 responses from invited participants. The remainder of the time will be open for you to interact with the speaker, so come with questions! • Proceedings: Revised papers from the forum will be submitted to a special issue of medieval worlds: comparative & interdisciplinary studies, a peer-reviewed, open-access journal published by the Austrian Academy of Sciences (ISSN 2412-3196).

All times are Central European Time (CET). Logistical support has been provided by Usaybia.net team members Vanessa Birkhahn and Malinda Tolay.

BACKGROUND From the eighth century to the thirteenth century and beyond, scholars in the Abbasid and neighboring realms pioneered study in medicine, mathematics, the astral arts, and many other disciplines. Scholarly treatises from that era together with biographical sources such as Ibn Abī Uṣaybiʿa's History of Physicians and documentary texts from the Cairo Genizah show that this scholarly activity was not isolated to a single community. Instead, it emerged from a rich exchange between scholars affiliated with many different communities: Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Zoroastrian, Hindu, Samaritan, and others. Sometimes this exchange occurred through books or letters while at other times it was face-to-face in formal, institutional settings, side-by-side in the workplace, or even mediated through patrons, servants, or family members.

In the framework of the project “Communities of Knowledge” (funded by the German Federal Ministry of Education and Research), we are hosting a series of discussions on the topic of person-to-person knowledge exchange among Near Eastern communities during Abbasid rule.