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Correction: Merge https://usaybia.net/person/2269 with https://usaybia.net/person/2268 #187

Open nathangibson opened 2 years ago

nathangibson commented 2 years ago

URI of the page with the mistake

https://usaybia.net/person/2269

What should be corrected on the page?

These two are probably the same person. (From discussion of a problem pointed out by @hannafriedel)

There is a textual problem here and it's not clear which way to resolve it. As far as I can tell, al-Hādī had 2 daughters, Umm ʿĪsā and Umm al-ʿAbbās (Nunah). Umm ʿĪsā married al-Maʾmūn and was the mother of Muḥammad and ʿAbd Allāh. But there is sometimes a son of al-Maʾmūn attested as ʿUbayd Allāh. Al-Maʾmūn also had 2 daughters, Umm Ḥabīb and Umm al-Faḍl.

From the Arabic, I think أم محمد وعبيد الل is one person with her two sons, "the mother of Muḥammad and of ʿUbayd Allāh." (ʿUbayd Allāh could be another son of al-Hādī, but I don't think he would be listed separately after the daughters.) The main question is whether she is the same person as Umm ʿĪsā, the wife of al-Maʾmūn. The reading the main text of the edition has adopted with ابنتيه ("his two daughters") apparently thinks they are 2 different women, daughters of al-Hādī. (Then maybe Umm al-ʿAbbās/Nunah would be the 2nd, but I can't find more information about her children's names.) Manuscript group A (as in note 17) has ابنيه ("his two sons", i.e., the two sons of al-Maʾmūn), which would make Umm ʿĪsā = the mother of Muḥammad and of ʿUbayd Allāh. This works historically, except that the second son is normally "ʿAbd Allāh" instead of "ʿUbayd Allāh." So I think that is the best version.

My revised translation: "She was the mother of Jaʿfar ... and of Umm ʿĪsā, the wife of al-Maʾmūn and mother of his two sons Muḥammad and ʿUbayd Allāh."

How should it be corrected?

Merge https://usaybia.net/person/2269 with https://usaybia.net/person/2268

Citation

LHOM 8.10.3

Citation URL

https://scholarlyeditions.brill.com/reader/urn:cts:arabicLit:0668IbnAbiUsaibia.Tabaqatalatibba.lhom-tr-eng1:8.10/?right=lhom-ed-ara1

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