Announcement: Post-IETF 114 and the future of this Draft

kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

Hello All,

@bradleypeabody and I recently represented Draft 04 of the UUIDv6/7/8/Max Draft in the last IETF 114 Dispatch session back on July 25th, 2022

The goal of the Dispatch session was to present the work we have already done up through Draft 04 and obtain an official dispatch outcome. That is,

It goes to an existing working group
It's simple enough to be AD-sponsored (i.e. doesn't need lots of community discussion and regular meetings)
It requires a new working group
It goes to ISE (Independent Submissions Editor) because you don't want community input
It needs more work before finding a home

The Outcome

The IETF dispatch opted to officially adopt our work through a new "tightly focused" UUID working group (WG) which is committed to ensuring UUID is one of the IETFs "well maintained standards".
The work in progress charter can be found at this link: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-uuidrev/
- Note: 00-03 is the charter version at the time of this announcement: https://www.ietf.org/charter/charter-ietf-uuidrev-00-03.txt

The WG Charter

The most important item to take away from the charter:
- The IETF wants to give RFC4122 a "fresh coat of paint" and replace it with with a net-new document.
In the process we can incorporate the v6/7/8/Max into the new base UUID RFC.
This means things like #119 and other RFC4122 errata's can finally be fixed!
Other Notes: The IETF is not opposed to handling other topics in this WG like Alternate UUID Encoding or UUID Long; however these topics are contingent on delivering the RFC4122 re-write.

What's Next?

The charter for the WG creation will be reviewed by the Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG) on Aug 25 for official adoption by the IETF.
Assuming this WG is adopted @bradleypeabody, Myself and possibly @ben221199 will begin working on the draft which will define/redefine UUIDv1 through UUIDv8, Nil/Max and replace RFC4122.
I will continue to update this thread as I have information to share.

IETF 114 Links

IETF 114 Dispatch Meeting Minutes
IETF 114 Dispatch Recording [Start: 0:58:21] - [Stop: 1:11:34] (Ignore me failing to use their mic setup)
Session Slides

Thanks again to all who have contributed thus far!

kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

There is a new mailer to track this work over on the IETF if members here want to subscribe so they can contribute any future discussions or watch silently. https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uuidrev

I will also work to ensure any major topics are properly tracked on the issue tracker in this forum.

kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

The Working Group has been accepted and work shall commence on draft-ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/uuidrev/about/

Please subscribe to the mailer to stay in the loop in case I forget to publish something to this announcement thread.

Edit: Historical email communications can be found here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/uuidrev/

kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

Timeline Update from last IETF Interim Meeting:

Submit Draft 00 of draft-ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis by Oct 24 (Draft 04 merged with RFC4122 is the goal)
Discuss at IETF 115, Week of Nov 5
Interim Meeting every month, draft release at the end of every month
Goal still to submit to IESG end of March after IETF 116

kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

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Edit:

Diffs:          https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis-00

kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

At IETF 115 it was decided to have some interim meetings leading up to Draft 01 to discuss changes.

Meeting info for those that want to attend are on Jan 19, 2023 and Feb 16, 2023: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/uuidrev/meetings/

You may also find historical updates from IETF 115 and the interim meeting in 2022 on the same page.

kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

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kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

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sergeyprokhorenko commented 1 year ago

Hello All, Typo: missing d in words "(as opposed to client-generated UUIDs)"

kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

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kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

interim-2023-uuidrev-03 2023-05-10 Update:

draft-ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis-03 has entered Working Group Last Call! Please comment on the tracker or email thread before June 9th to request any changes.

The Mailer: uuidrev@ietf.org (signup required to post) IETF Github: https://github.com/ietf-wg-uuidrev/rfc4122bis/issues

kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

WGCL Draft 04 Midterm Update

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kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

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kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

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kyzer-davis commented 1 year ago

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kyzer-davis commented 11 months ago

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kyzer-davis commented 11 months ago

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kyzer-davis commented 10 months ago

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kyzer-davis commented 10 months ago

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kyzer-davis commented 9 months ago

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kyzer-davis commented 9 months ago

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kyzer-davis commented 8 months ago

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kyzer-davis commented 2 months ago

RFC 9562

Title:      Universally Unique IDentifiers (UUIDs) 
Author:     K. Davis,
            B. Peabody,
            P. Leach
Status:     Standards Track
Stream:     IETF
Date:       May 2024
Mailbox:    kydavis@cisco.com,
            brad@peabody.io,
            pjl7@uw.edu
Pages:      46
Obsoletes:  RFC 4122

I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis-14.txt

URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9562

DOI:        10.17487/RFC9562

With the final publication I plan to archive this Repo. The IETF working group list (uuidrev@ietf.org) shall remain open to address any questions, or errata that may arise in the future.

broofa commented 2 months ago

Congratulations, and thanks for all the hard work! (And persistence :-) )

htunnicliff commented 2 months ago

Thank you so much!! 👏

ramsey commented 2 months ago

Congratulations! Thank you for all the hard work to see this through. It looks great!

fabiolimace commented 2 months ago

Congratulations @bradleypeabody and @kyzer-davis! Thank you for your dedication to the specification, which resulted in a high quality document, technically and textually. The Internet as a whole will benefit greatly from the new published standard. As for the community that actively participated during the project by discussing, giving suggestions and making prototypes, it was great exchanging ideas with you guys! I will miss the discussions.

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