Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 8 years ago
Closing tomorrow (Friday 12/28/2012) pending any comments.
Original comment by srstcl...@gmail.com
on 27 Dec 2012 at 9:01
Added to Milestone 1.0 GetObs templates, closing.
Original comment by sh...@axiomalaska.com
on 29 Dec 2012 at 12:27
I don't see how the validTime in the SML response can represent the range of
observations. As stated in 09-033 OWS-6 SensorML Profile for Discovery
Engineering Report, "The validTime section provides information about the time
period in which a sensor description is valid." This represents the time for
which this network/station/sensor configuration is valid -- not the time for
which one should expect observations. And yes, the time range for observations
may very well be less than the sensor valid time.
Original comment by mike.gar...@gmail.com
on 3 Jan 2013 at 7:36
I agree that it's a stretch, but their definition is pretty vague. "the time
period in which a sensor description is valid..." in what context? Globally? Or
in the context of this server? It's not a prefect fit, I agree, but we needed
to put the time range of observations somewhere, and the 52n developers
recommended sml:validTime in relation to 09-033.
Were you planning on producing multiple SensorML documents for a station with
different validTime ranges and different configurations? If this throws a
wrench in your gears we could probably shift it back to some entries in
sml:history or something, although it's not quite as clean.
Original comment by sh...@axiomalaska.com
on 10 Jan 2013 at 10:32
Original comment by sh...@axiomalaska.com
on 10 Jan 2013 at 10:32
Any other thoughts, Mike or anyone else?
Original comment by sh...@axiomalaska.com
on 18 Jan 2013 at 8:48
The plan was to allow the end user to specify any deployment of a station using
the version/date in the URN. The SOS would then report the station
configuration for that deployment. Omitting the version would return the most
recent deployment.
It seems to be a leap to use sml:validTime to express the range of observation
times. Unfortunately, I do not have an alternative solution at this time.
Original comment by mike.gar...@gmail.com
on 18 Jan 2013 at 3:36
Here is some pretty old document from the OGC Public Wiki that may help to
better understand the sense of how <sml:validTime> is supposed to be used:
http://external.opengeospatial.org/twiki_public/NREwg/GMESPHInstrumentCapabiliti
es#ValidTime_Section
The 'validTime' section there is used to specify "a temporal validity time
range that applies to the document. For Platform Capabilities and Instrument
Capabilities documents, the validity period usually goes from the launch date
to today (indicated by 'now') or the end of the life of the satellite. It can
however be different if one of the on-board systems has limited functionality
due to some incident. When an incident occurs, a new document can thus be
created with a validity period going from the date of the incident to 'now'.
The old document should be archived (perhaps for use with older products
generated before the incident) with a validity period ending at the date of the
incident."
That description seems closer to Mike's argument that <sml:validTime> is more
about a lifetime of a platform or instrument, than about observation timeframe.
Just my $0.02...
Original comment by abir...@gmail.com
on 18 Jan 2013 at 5:13
I don't have anything new to add with respect to what interpretation of
validTime is closest to the original intent. It seems like it could go either
way.
However, I did want to address what Mike said in Comment 7, about the intent to
"allow the end user to specify any deployment of a station using the
version/date in the URN". I'd point out Issue 5 (closed months ago),
http://code.google.com/p/ioostech/issues/detail?id=5, URN syntax for
platform/stations identifiers; and the discussions linked from there. We had
pretty extensive discussions about this over the Summer. The solution was not
perfect, but it is reasonably clean. More to the point:
"2. The optional versioning string token described in the Geo-IDE wiki document
will be eliminated, and should not be used."
Until there is a more extensive revisit of this issue, I would strongly vote
for not reopening this, and not planning to add a version or date to urn's for
now. As you can see from those discussion, there are lot of tricky
ramifications. Let's stick to what we decided, until we've truly reached
Milestone 1 (or 1.1? Whatever) and have the opportunity to dedicate real
braintrust to this issue.
Original comment by emilioma...@gmail.com
on 19 Jan 2013 at 2:08
Ok, I'm convinced. I'll be out for two weeks, but when I get back I'll propose
a different location to indicate the time range of observations in the SOS
(probably just a metadata tag, since there doesn't seem to be any better place
for them). If anyone wants to make a suggestion in the interim, please do so.
sml:validTime will return to its regularly scheduled programming...
Original comment by sh...@axiomalaska.com
on 28 Jan 2013 at 11:16
Original comment by dpsnowde...@gmail.com
on 30 Jan 2013 at 5:16
Waiting anxiously for an alternative to validTime
Original comment by wilcox.k...@gmail.com
on 31 Jan 2013 at 4:56
We'll open another issue for Shane's issue. Also, the templates must be
changed so that the comment above the validTime element is correct. The use of
the element is ok, the comment is wrong.
Original comment by dpsnowde...@gmail.com
on 31 Jan 2013 at 4:59
I updated the templates, all set.
Original comment by wilcox.k...@gmail.com
on 31 Jan 2013 at 5:00
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
sh...@axiomalaska.com
on 22 Dec 2012 at 2:50