(22631.3155) Windows 10 Ribbon option doesn't display the old Details pane anymore

[jeremykh]

After updating Windows 11 (KB5034765), the new Windows 11 Details pane is always used even if I choose the Windows 10 Ribbon or Windows 7 Command Bar in ExplorerPatcher. ExplorerPatcher used to make File Explorer display the old Details pane if Windows 10 Ribbon or Windows 7 Command Bar was selected.

After this Windows update:

I prefer the old Details pane because it displays info when multiple files are selected (for example, the length of multiple audio files):

[tallman69]

Have you tried changing the layout under the View tab of File Explorer? I have one computer that has been updated to 22631.3155 and another that has not, and I do not see any difference in the File Explorer detail pane between the two, and they are both using the Windows 10 ribbon.

[pyrates999]

Please post explorer patcher version.

Please include what settings you changed in explorer patcher properties application. These should be screen shots.

Please include any other software you have installed that modifies the UI of windows.

[Amrsatrio]

For now you can use OldNewExplorer to get the old Windows 7 details pane back. I will add it into EP in the future.

[djcholapin]

Hi all, I was about to post something here, regarding this new details pane. That update just installed by itself and I was so angry when I so the changes. Few problems with that new pane :

• Unable to edit directely metadatas (crucial)
• The preview thumbnail is too big (and useless I should say, for videos it is always black, and for photos it's basically a double of the preview icon!), which means that we can't see all the metadatas if a file, when the explorer window is not full screen. It forces you to put them all in full screen to access all details (crucial)
• When you click a file, there is a loading icon, and it takes some seconds to display the details. It used to be instant in my case.
• When you select multiple files, the informations were condensed (lenth, genre, etc., now not anymore, there's nothing.
• When you click a folder, I don't need to see another freaking folder on the right.
• I don't need to have a "property" button, when I already have one in the top ribbon.

Many posts about this : https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-11s-new-file-explorer-details-pane/99479aa6-0268-4fc9-bd48-fa10acc28f41 / https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/16swy3p/windows_11s_new_file_explorer_details_pane/

In essence, this update is just pure stupidity. Microsoft should stop recruiting brainless product managers. Breaking a wildly used functionallity for no reason, and adding a not so used mandatory OneDrive icon to the QuickAccess... Insane.

I was wondering if Explorer Patcher had an option to reverse that, as the update seems to be there from November. From the comments on that post, I'm not too sure. Is there an option or not ? If yes, which one ? I'v tried many and no change.

If not, is there a plan to add it ?

• If not, is it safe to install old explorer : https://lesferch.github.io/OldExplorer/ on top of EP ?
• If yes, I'm happy to wait as I'd rather have everything within the same app. And also, if yes and it will take a while, will it be a problem to have OldExplorer installed when the update comes ?

Thank you

[jeremykh]

Please post explorer patcher version.

Please include what settings you changed in explorer patcher properties application. These should be screen shots.

Please include any other software you have installed that modifies the UI of windows.

EP version 22621.2861.62.2

Settings I chose:

No other UI modifications

[jeremykh]

Have you tried changing the layout under the View tab of File Explorer? I have one computer that has been updated to 22631.3155 and another that has not, and I do not see any difference in the File Explorer detail pane between the two, and they are both using the Windows 10 ribbon.

Yes, the layout made no difference

[jeremykh]

@djcholapin Before the latest Windows 11 update, EP successfully reversed the details pane when the Windows 10 Ribbon or Windows 7 Command Bar was enabled in EP. It seems the new update broke that.

[jeremykh]

For now you can use OldNewExplorer to get the old Windows 7 details pane back. I will add it into EP in the future.

The Windows 7 details pane is better than the new Windows 11 one, but hopefully we can get the vertical Windows 10 one back too.

[tallman69]

@jeremykh I apologize for adding confusion to this thread with my first comment. Since I have not been a user of the Detail pane, I totally misunderstood what you were talking about in your initial post. Consequently, my observation about the Detail pane on my two computers was totally wrong. I can now see how this change is making a big impact on those of you who have relied on using the features of the older version.

[jeremykh]

Update: Updating to EP 22621.3007.63.2 did not fix this.

[jeremykh]

Right now the only solution is to uninstall the Windows update and then pause updates.

[djcholapin]

@djcholapin Before the latest Windows 11 update, EP successfully reversed the details pane when the Windows 10 Ribbon or Windows 7 Command Bar was enabled in EP. It seems the new update broke that.

Right I see! That makes sense. I was seeing the normal details pane all along, and it just changed recently. Same thing as you I guess.

I don't want to uninstall the update so I'll wait in case EP gets updated hopefully, I would like to avoid the other patch as well (It might be outdated anyway if EP was as well).