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SoS extension for SAS
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Testing sos-sas module #1

Closed HenryLeongStat closed 6 years ago

HenryLeongStat commented 6 years ago

As title.

BoPeng commented 6 years ago

Yes, it would be very helpful for you to try to setup SAS/Jupyter/SoS through sos-sas, share your experience as installation instruction, and report problems here.

BoPeng commented 6 years ago

Linux was listed as a dependency for sas-kernel last year but they have removed it (see log message for their readme). I assume that this means sas-kernel should work under windows.

Setting up SAS with Jupyter/SoS and R would also be helpful to you in case you would like to mix and match SAS and R code in your analysis.

HenryLeongStat commented 6 years ago

Will do!

Actually, people here only use R and sas. I heard some complaints about the inconvenience for communication (few of them know both). I think it is a good opportunity to introduce them SoS and will try to bring that up later when I have a chance!

BoPeng commented 6 years ago

Make sure sos works well for this case first, especially because I do not use windows so SoS is not well tested under windows. :-) I suppose you can be our windows tester if you are the only frequent windows user.

HenryLeongStat commented 6 years ago

OK, I will make sure it working on windows 7 first. It does surprise me that everyone is still using windows 7 here... Will follow the instruction for windows installation of SoS! :D

BoPeng commented 6 years ago

If I have to use windows and have a choice between windows 7 and 10, I would definitely choose 7.

HenryLeongStat commented 6 years ago

But why? When I tried to boot the other desktop and install Ubuntu there, I find that there is a Ubuntu terminal for Windows 10. Most of the softwares and supports are based on Windows 10 instead of Windows 7, aren't they?

HenryLeongStat commented 6 years ago

I also have a question for the sas kernel. When the dataset is very large, sometimes it would be lagged to import the dataset using sas GUI. Would that be less lagging to use sas kernel in Jupyter Notebook to import the large dataset?

BoPeng commented 6 years ago

The UI if windows ten really sucks, because it tries to accommodate both traditional UI and touch screen. The start menu is less intuitive and it even have two setting systems, control panel for traditional use and settings for touch screen, and some settings are in one system not in another. I also had lot of trouble with windows 10 on my surface book, which was supposed to be the top machine for windows 10.

But nothing compared to the auto update stuff. I have many instanances that when I need to use my surface book, it starts with a “updating” screen and update itself for 30 minutes...

BoPeng commented 6 years ago

No. Jupyter/sas-kernel would not improve performance.

HenryLeongStat commented 6 years ago

The UI of windows ten really sucks, because it tries to accommodate both traditional UI and touch screen....

I see... Didn't have much experience with windows 10 though, the only desktop with windows 10 is taken by my elder brother at home. And not rich enough to buy a surface book. :sweat_smile:

No. Jupyter/sas-kernel would not improve performance.

OK, so the only way to improve the performance should be using SAS CLI I guess? I will try that later. Start to understand why CLI is better than GUI in a lot of cases, not only the cases caring about performance, but also the ability to be reproducible.

BoPeng commented 6 years ago

What I meant was that if the dataset is large, most of the resources would be spent on data importing/analysis so GUI, Notebook or CLI would not make a big difference. Differences would only be noticeable when you have limited hardware resource (so that GUI can be a burden by itself) and/or you are analyzing small/medium sized data (for which interface lag is noticeable).

HenryLeongStat commented 6 years ago

I see! What bugs me is that there is a VM for protecting the data, and it is extremely lagged to do anything there, even open a SAS GUI. However, all the work has to be done there due to all the data storing there. The hardware is powerful, but shared by 25 VMs.

Anyway, I think that is a very good idea to use SoS for the works, since all the works are required to be reproducible. SoS is a great way to show the report especially for users with different language-preferences (hard to read the codes even if they are well-commented).

BoPeng commented 6 years ago

Should work under windows now.