Name the “Seed” in “Bulbasaur, the Seed Pokémon”

[encukou]

Reported by En-Cu-Kou on 2011/04/29 15:09:01 +0000 · Migrated from Redmine issue 627

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Alternatives: – species: Used on veekun since the brown version. Also used on the pokemon.com pokédex. Clashes with the “thing with its own pokédex number” concept. – category: Used on pokemonblackwhite.com – classification, categorization, sorting: edict’s translations of 分類, which is used in the pokédex at www.pokemon.co.jp – kind: used on veekun before the brown version – genus, phylum: “the only other part of the bio hierarchy that’s very obviously from that hierarchy” – taxonomy

IRC discussion from Jan. 28, emphasis added:

<Eevee> 15:47 < EnCuKou\> veekun should say “Category: Victory Pokémon” instead of “Species: Victory”
<Eevee> **‘phylum’**
<Zhorcott> that is totally wrong
<Eevee> I am aware
<Zhorcott> \>:(
<Eevee> however it’s the only other part of the bio hierarchy that’s very obviously from that hierarchy
<Eevee> oh, wait. **‘taxonomy’**?
<Zhorcott> **genus**?
<Eevee> durr
<Eevee> that also works
<Zhorcott> haha
<Zhorcott> I’d still go with **“Classification”** over that
<Zhorcott> even **“Category”** is better, especially with its officialness points
<magicko> Category is too generic though
<Eevee> it’s not a category reeeally though :(
<Zhorcott> yeah…
<magicko> and that
<Eevee> e.g. genus can contain only one species
<Eevee> doesn’t imply a big grouping
<Zhorcott> well the point is it’s **not** a biological grouping
<Zhorcott> there is no link between Flygon and Xatu
<Zhorcott> it’s more a category than a genus
<Zhorcott> “Category” at least doesn’t suggest any relation outside of the categorization
<Zhorcott> I have a bigger beef with the fact that it suggests a system with a fixed list of categories, like types
<Zhorcott> or the FR/LG habitats
<magicko> but it’s not even a categorization
<Zhorcott> I guess that is related to what Eevee said
<magicko> it’s more just descriptive
<Zhorcott> yeah
<Zhorcott> dywypi: jdic @bunrui
<dywypi> Zhorcott: 分類 [ぶんるい] / (n,vs) classification/categorization/sorting/ (P)/
<Zhorcott> hmmmm
<Zhorcott> Bulbapedia doesn’t say where they **got** that word, though
<Zhorcott> and this is from the article “Species”

I’m going with genus for now since it has to be renamed to something.

Redmine metadata:
Updated on: 2011/05/09 03:03:59 +0000
Start date: 2011/04/29

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Comment by Zhorken from 2011/05/08 12:34:59 +0000

I was kidding with genus :(

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Comment by Eevee from 2011/05/09 03:03:59 +0000

I kinda like “genus” and don’t have any better ideas.

[encukou]

Are we going with genus, then?

[magical]

We could sidestep the issue almost entirely and just display "The Seed Pokémon".

[encukou]

I like that. But we still have to name the DB/API field.

[CatTrinket]

I definitely don't like "genus". The official thing is "classification" or "category" or something, which would at least be an improvement I guess.

[encukou]

Well if it has an official name, it's a no-brainer, really. Source?

[CatTrinket]

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/en-us/pokemon/virizion/ -- It's "category", which I don't like much, and I don't remember if I've seen it anywhere other than pokemonblackwhite.com. Note that vee and magical also express dissatisfaction with that in the log.

[encukou]

Right, it's mentioned at the top of the report, sorry.

It's about as official as the breeding group names. Not such a no-brainer after all :(

[CatTrinket]

For the record, "category" now appears in Pokédex 3D and Pokédex 3D Pro, so it's more concretely official. (At least, I'm 99% sure; I don't have my 3DS here to double-check.)