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Make telesci consume lots of energy #12082

Open gbasood opened 8 years ago

gbasood commented 8 years ago

Because when I think of things that should consume lots of energy telesci is one of them. Why? Because the demand for power over 200kw is nonexistant. There should be machines that need more power when they run, like telesci stuff after a teleport. I think this is a good starting point for creating any demand for power. Maybe then the massive numbers people like to jerk off over in engineering will mean something.

Exxion commented 8 years ago

There's a lot of stuff I'd like to see done with the power system to give it more depth in general, but the probability anyone will do it is roughly zero

gbasood commented 8 years ago

I mean there's two big things off the top of my head that would add a bit of depth

AlphaBuffalo commented 8 years ago

What about in order to prevent assistants from frying themselves or a half AI from frying people, we make use of the heavy duty cable that should still be in the code and make it so the high energy machines need a direct connection to it so they get the power. Might be interesting seeing 2 cables on the station if it works

PJB3005 commented 8 years ago

Bigger SMESs

This can do more harm than good.

gbasood commented 8 years ago

Bigger SMES would only follow after adding things with more demand. Or maybe just more input/output capacity? Alternatively we could require engineering to have to set up additional SMES with isolated output for high load areas Things like that would lead to separate power grids Which is also a cool concept but much more labor intensive

FudgePucker commented 8 years ago

Main problem with this is that work on telescience starts round start and takes from station loop.

Meaning even more pressure on engineering to get engine running before they get lynched because telescience takes up all the power round start from the SMESs causing APCs around the station to not charge.

SonixApache commented 8 years ago

Seems to me like a good idea, telesci requires way too little power for something like teleportation.

You can already double SMES input/output by improving the parts inside.

Maybe make telesci a seperate power circuit connected to the main grid by a SMES that's set to 0/0 at roundstart?

FudgePucker commented 8 years ago

That still puts pressure on engineering because they will set their SMES to max charge.

People will blame engineering before they blame telescience for power outages.

No one in science gives a shit about the rest of the station, engineering will suffer the most from this change.

Also unless you make it so that it requires a wire dot under the pad it will take from the APC, and science can just hotswap powercells changing nothing.

You guys are playing with a hypothetical "wouldn't it be nice if..." when it doesn't reflect the reality of the situation at all. Sure it would be nice if telescience required a fuckton of power, but in reality science isn't in charge of setting up power, doesn't have any influence on the setting up of power, and doesn't care about the power situation on the rest of the station.

SonixApache commented 8 years ago

Have SMESes be controlled through a few central computers rather than on-the-spot?

gbasood commented 8 years ago

@FudgePucker What's wrong with pressure on engineering though? The reality of the situation is that engineering does their job for 10 minutes then fucks off OR they jerk off over numbers

They should have an actual job after 10 minutes that doesn't involve a clause like "if someone blows shit up" We can always give engineering more tools to deal with power demand. This isn't saying that making telesci consume power without changing anything else is the only way to do this. Ideally there would be change to engineering as well, either in the ability of engineering to crank out more power or to set up more SMES's for dealing with higher loads.

FudgePucker commented 8 years ago

Well I don't see a WYCI tag. This seems like at the surface a simple change when in reality it would require a massive change to two whole departments, and for what? Telescience requiring more power?

gbasood commented 8 years ago

Except it wouldn't Station constantly runs at a power surplus after 10 minutes unless someone kills an engine