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Feature Request: Being able to hear nearby ghosts while metabolizing ectoplasm #35049

Open Hinaichigo opened 1 year ago

Hinaichigo commented 1 year ago

It'd be cool if you could hear ghosts that are within visual range, and see their emotes, so you could talk to them, while you have ectoplasm in your system.

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ValkyrieSkies commented 1 year ago

Most ghostspeak is entirely OOC so I don't think it's too great for immersion.

falcon2346 commented 1 year ago

Deadchat should be kept as far from in character knowledge as possible. They simply have too much meta knowledge and you can bet people would start speedrunning ectoplasm production to help collect their valids. Ectoplasm also lasts like 200 seconds per unit which is a long ass time to gather round knowledge.

Hinaichigo commented 1 year ago

I meant this more as chatting with ghosts and having seances and stuff than listening in on deadchat. But I guess people could use it to spy on deadchat and such, similar to the issues with when vampires had this ability.

falcon2346 commented 1 year ago

It would be fun if you could chat with ghosts and listen to their salty conversations, but the fact of the matter is that ghosts talk about shit that players really shouldn't know. I like the idea, but it's impossible to implement without running into metagaming issues

Eneocho commented 1 year ago

The idea is fun but the only viable implementation is like what the vampires did, and since ghostspeak is almost always extremely OOC, it is not viable. Just draw the alphabet on the floor and have ghosts spell things for you with ghostsight.

Eneocho commented 1 year ago

Ectoplasm could let you hear the emotes, but nothing else (would require changing ghostchat so the *emotes are properly processed). So you can get the ghost sight and see/hear the ghost farting and laughing, but can't hear them, as they are not physical.

Eneocho commented 1 year ago

An alternative idea that would not fall that deep into OOC (and would require some rulings) would be a seance ritual kinda deal. You draw the crayon rune on the floor, put the candles around over gold tiles and chant a specific sentence to summon herobr- the spirits. The first ghost to click the rune gets partially pulled through the veil and can communicate, but cannot leave the room, speak about OOC stuff, or give metaknowledge. Shit like "Oh mighty spirit, tell me where my friend greymcshirt's corspe is!" being answered with "somewhere in the northern wing of the station".