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Request: Remove Assistant "Cap" #35366

Open D3athrow-Issues opened 10 months ago

D3athrow-Issues commented 10 months ago

(WEB REPORT BY: gimmick1 REMOTE: 206.221.180.138:7777)

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Description

(I am drunk again so I apologise for any typos, should they appear in the text below.) I have noticed you cannot latejoin as Assistant if enough players already take up that slot. Assistant is supposed to be the "default" job on Space Station 13, so I ask you to remove the limit on available Assistant positions.

Why

I fail to see how it is justified to make this vacancy limited in the first place on a SS13 server that struggles to reach the population of 30. Besides, GREYTIDE STATIONWIDE! is fun.

MercuriusGH commented 10 months ago

make assistants valid albeit

Kurfursten commented 10 months ago

No cap?

Killette2 commented 10 months ago

I'm willing to go back

Kurfursten commented 10 months ago

I thought there would be a lot more joke posts on this so I guess someone should post an actual response to this issue post.

I fail to see how it is justified to make this vacancy limited in the first place on a SS13 server that struggles to reach the population of 30.

That's the point. That's exactly why it's limited. The cap increases as more security join, which is why you could have 40 assistants during the Sethtide. We would prefer there be doctors, engineers, cargo techs, botanists, etc. instead of 14 assistants and no one doing any jobs. Honestly, if you want to just walk around an empty station and not engage with any job mechanics while chased by 1 security guy, I'm sure GMod still has RP servers.

Killette2 commented 10 months ago

Let the man be an assistant. Sometimes I don't want to be a doctor the entire shift, but many times despite my role I find myself helping in medbay because somebody situationally needs surgery or lifesaving treatment I'm tired of the meme that assistants add nothing to the round but grief, and I don't even play assistant opting for its green counterpart instead. I don't feel like there's a need to punish people who wouldn't be taking a job slot seriously who just want to pop in as assistant and roll with the punches and I don't think we need to tie it to security when it should naturally balance itself out, as would the job selection as well. We're not at the same time and atmosphere we were when we added this cap

DorainGrey commented 10 months ago

I don't think it balancing out, is true. I remember when certain admins opened the assistant slots nearly every round for a few weeks and it was just pure chaos empty departments.

The reality is with the way the assistant role is treated these days in the server culture, it's quite difficult to see this working out. There's a big subset of regular assistant players that it's impossible to tell when they are an antag or not because they act almost exactly the same either way. Especially with the total lack of regular security players.